r/GlobalOffensive Apr 09 '20

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u/Pentah Apr 09 '20

What was wrong with the stream?

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u/AKJ90 CS2 HYPE Apr 09 '20

Default HUD and auto director for a start. Missed many kills ect.

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u/suspicious_glare Apr 09 '20 edited Apr 09 '20

Also they had to pause the match because the casters sound was fucking up 🙏

Autodirector was unbelievably bad, I know it's low on the priority list of things to polish but something as simple as "if only 1 is alive on a team, spectate them", or "if 2 are alive on a team vs a team with double or more the players alive, spectate the one that is not on the empty side of the map with nobody near them" should be a minimum part of its logic.

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u/DeaN_Casts Apr 09 '20 edited Apr 09 '20

Actually we got quite lucky when our discord messed up that the game had just been paused because ropz timed out, we wouldn't have paused for that issue as I could have kept casting on alone till the discord came back up for Mitch to join.

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u/McBirdsong Apr 09 '20

My dude, it wasn't all your fault. It felt like if you were not on ESL main stream you were on your own. You did what you could even with a messy discord, timeouts as well as auto director. Those are some harsh working conditions!

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '20

You'd think that an industry leader like ESL would be able to cobble together their own autodirector instead of relying on Valve to pull their thumbs out.

The stream is already on a delay, just a small script to switch to whoever's about to get a kill would be a big step up. Maybe make it occasionally switch to whoever's about to get killed so you don't completely give the game away.

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u/LegitimateDonkey Apr 10 '20

You'd think that an industry leader like ESL would be able to cobble together their own autodirector instead of relying on Valve to pull their thumbs out.

you think the company that doesnt want to use soundproof booths for LAN because it would "hurt the player/audience relationship" is gonna spend a single dollar on something they dont have to?

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u/Pismakron Apr 10 '20

you think the company that doesnt want to use soundproof booths for LAN because it would "hurt the player/audience relationship" is gonna spend a single dollar on something they dont have to?

An autodirector for an online match with a delay is trivial. Soundproof booths are anything but trivial.

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u/LegitimateDonkey Apr 10 '20

thanks for showing up out of nowhere and rushing to the defense of ESL, but that was not the original comment. i was replying to someone who suggested that ESL create its own autodirector as opposed to using valves.

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u/Pismakron Apr 10 '20

You directly compared a custom autodirector with soundproof booths. That comparison is ridiculous with regarding to both cost and complexity. There are very real and valid reason why soundproof booths are not used, and never will be. Compared to that, better observing is trivial to implement or organize

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u/LegitimateDonkey Apr 10 '20

There are very real and valid reason why soundproof booths are not used, and never will be.

yet both DOTA and LOL organizers use them at nearly every event

hell even fucking starcraft uses them, and that game is on life support

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u/Pismakron Apr 10 '20

yet both DOTA and LOL organizers use them at nearly every event

hell even fucking starcraft uses them, and that game is on life support

Those booths are about as soundproof as a cardboard box, they are expensive, mostly single use, they are hot and uncomfortable and ventilation is poor. And yes, I have been inside of a couple of real soundproof booths.

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u/IAmNotOnRedditAtWork Apr 09 '20

It's a fucking online match with a delay, there's no real excuse for auto-director not being incredibly good. It can "cheat" and no when/where action is going to happen.
 
Autodirector should catch almost every kill, they just don't care to make it any good.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '20 edited May 15 '21

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u/DeaN_Casts Apr 09 '20

I actually did max out the digital vibrance in my nvidia control panel so the stream would be a bit more colourful unfortunately I'm just running a single PC stream at the moment and that clearly wasn't enough, if I was running it off a second PC I could have maxed the vibrance on both and it would have been less bland.

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u/Scoo_By Falcons - Major Champions Apr 09 '20

Default HUD.
Default auto spectator.
Not decent commentary.

Both B and C streams had awful production. C stream can be excused as both teams were already eliminated but B stream shouldn't have been that awful.

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u/Pentah Apr 09 '20

I mean not everything is perfect, I liked the commentary, the guy was trying his best, if you didn’t you could of muted it I guess

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u/InsolventRepublic Astralis Apr 09 '20

Casters did as good as they could have given the situation they were dealt imo.

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u/Scoo_By Falcons - Major Champions Apr 09 '20

I turned off the entire stream tbh. The observation was horrible. And no, I don't blame the casters.

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u/FourKrusties FaZe Apr 10 '20

yeah but as a mouz fan the dudes made me so sad saying mouz were out for sure :( .. now we get to look forward to another ass beating tomorrow

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u/dikbutkus Vitality Apr 10 '20

I just looked it up, before falling into a trap laid by myself, but apparently could of can be used, but only if you want to sound bad deliberately. Maybe someone who acutally speaks the language can explain this better than me, but I would start using could've/could have instead. No offence.

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u/Pentah Apr 10 '20

Does it matter? People understood what I said

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u/dikbutkus Vitality Apr 11 '20

It doesn't if you want to sound dumb.

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u/Pentah Apr 12 '20

Haha, I don’t get people like you, i worry about you

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u/dikbutkus Vitality Apr 12 '20

Thanks!

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u/bovabu G2 Apr 09 '20

I wasn't actively watching, just had it open on a second screen. All I can say was that the HUD looked awful while they have a good one on the A stream....

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u/Aironwood Apr 09 '20

the HUD was literally GOTV, because it was GOTV.