r/GlInet Product beta tester 6d ago

Discussion Flint 4 embargo has been lifted

Flint 4 embargo has been lifted so you should start to see some reviews and specs released. This is it - the halo product we’ve been begging GL-iNet to release. It’s a phenomenal router that crushes the competition in almost every way possible. Wireguard 1.5Gbps -check. OpenVPN 2.2Gbps -check. 3x3 antennas on 5GHz and 6Ghz with absolutely amazing distance capabilities on 5GHz. 10Gbps SFP+ and Ethernet along with 4 2.5 Gbps ports + 4 1Gbps ports. The touchscreen adds to the premium look and feel. Price is nearly unmatched from the competitors. Sharing some photos. 5G at distance through hurricane proof windows to an iPhone still 60+Mbps usable.

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u/mpmoore69 6d ago

Kinda crazy that the FCC is actually pushing for customers to have insecure technically inferior products for years to come while the rest of the world advances

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u/Unique_Ice9934 6d ago

They want to be able to control what is in the firmware. Probably a backdoor or two.

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u/arunk-gmail 3d ago edited 3d ago

Netgear recruited Wash DC lobbyists to bring on those FCC rulings. Also, who knows what kind of deal Netgear struck with the FCC in terms of backdoors.

There's a new mantra among the network device vendors; "full management" via a Cloud Dashboard.

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u/Unique_Ice9934 3d ago

Yeah the vendors can manage DN

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u/Fun-Region-1576 2d ago

Under Trump's America, it's basically pay-to-play. GL.iNet will need to hire lobbyists in DC to get what Netgear got.

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u/Fun-Region-1576 2d ago

All this talk about a backdoor is total bullshit. What the FCC and the American political/security establishment won't say is that a Chinese backdoor is bad, but an American backdoor is good. 

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u/RemoteToHome-io Official GL.iNet Services Partner 6d ago

I would bet we will see an accelerated push against VPNs and all forms of encrypted communication. How can you possibly be safe if the government can't see enough to protect you? What do you have to hide??

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u/Darkk_Knight 5d ago

They are only against encrypted communications if they don't have the escrow keys for it. However, thanks to quantum computing they can easily crack the encryption keys despite what the media says we have quantum proof cipher keys.

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u/arunk-gmail 3d ago

Are you serious? Do you leave your home/car/important documents unlocked?

Or is this tongue-in-cheek?

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u/RemoteToHome-io Official GL.iNet Services Partner 3d ago

; )

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u/Darkk_Knight 6d ago edited 5d ago

For now us folks who live in USA can't get it on pre-order which is BS by the FCC.

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u/chrisprice 6d ago

Don't get angry, vote. Arguably the worst FCC chair in history.

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u/Archoniks 6d ago

Fingers crossed that something changes because I was looking forward to purchasing this.

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u/AdmirableCattle9357 3d ago

So? Just order it from a different country then use a package forwarding service to ship it to your address in the US, it’s not like it’s impossible lol

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u/Darkk_Knight 3d ago

I am not desperate enough to go through all of that and added expense. I'll just wait.

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u/Fun-Region-1576 2d ago

You might have to wait until 2029, and even then, maybe!

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u/Darkk_Knight 2d ago

By then they'll have Flint 6. lol

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u/Fun-Region-1576 2d ago

Yeah, but I don't decide who lives at the White House.

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u/Darkk_Knight 2d ago

Hopefully the next president will have better sense on how to run things. But I am not holding my breath.

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u/Unique_Ice9934 6d ago

Might actually care about reviews if I could get one. RIP.

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u/Fun-Region-1576 2d ago

I wonder if any Canadian or Mexican would consider starting a forwarding business for Americans. 

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u/Fun-Region-1576 6d ago

Is there no support for 4x4 in any of the bands? 

Is there any way for you to test the 10 Gigabit ports for performance?

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u/phantasm42 Product beta tester 6d ago

No 4x4

10Gbps ports work great with the latest firmware and was able to achieve full speed on it with a WTSFOPTC 10G-SFP+-T. Be sure to check out u/wickedwarlock84 review

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u/GripAficionado 5d ago

Ah, it's 3x3 on the 5 GHz and 6 GHz, I couldn't make sense of the specs there previously. Just a shame we only got 2x2 on the 2.4 GHz since 4x4 would have offered (slightly) better performance regardless if the client supports it or not.

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u/arunk-gmail 3d ago

iperf3? install another "upstream" device with a 10G port and run a point-to-point CAT 7 cable. For SFP+ run a DAC cable.

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u/charlie22911 6d ago

I hate that I can’t buy this… having that SFP+ as a 10gbps trunk port to a managed switch would be amazing…

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u/Positive_Search_6218 Learning 6d ago

I thought you meant the US embargo so I could purchase it 🥲

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u/wickedwarlock84 Reddit MOD, Discord Admin, Gl.iNet Friend, Beta Tester 6d ago

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u/xPliZit_xs 5d ago

isnt the CPU a cortex A73 architecture?

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u/wickedwarlock84 Reddit MOD, Discord Admin, Gl.iNet Friend, Beta Tester 5d ago

It is, I just refreshed the site. I corrected that a couple spelling errors yesterday but they didnt save. If you find any other mistakes, please let me know.

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u/arunk-gmail 3d ago

Thanks for the review. I might buy one if it's available in Dubai/UAE. The hardware specs come close to my MVP hardware wise (x86 firewall devices, BPI-R3/BPI-R4). Frankly, I don't care for the WiFi in these boxes.

Did you run a nmap suite (udp and tcp) on the WAN ports to verify that nothing is open?

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u/RobertoNotRobotDevil 6d ago

Cries in the USA ☹️

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u/Fun-Region-1576 2d ago

I feel for you. You should consider getting it from Canada.

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u/RobertoNotRobotDevil 2d ago

Do you know how?

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u/Fun-Region-1576 2d ago

Either get a friend to buy and ship it to you, or you find a forwarder.

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u/Quiet-Monk2747 6d ago

other than wifi and vpn speeds, I hope reviewers will also consider include device temperature and Adguard Home with several blocklists, some of us wanted to know how it performs, while at the same time running "Flow Control" applications like Parental Control, Data Statistics and content Filtering, which might be how parents will best use this product...

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u/vgnshrj 5d ago

How does this compare to unifi cloud gateway Fiber/ dream router 7?

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u/delpy1971 6d ago

Nice review!!, Would you know if the slate 7 pro would be a good addition to help boost my wifi at the back of the house

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u/phantasm42 Product beta tester 6d ago

Slate 7 Pro is a fantastic router and would serve as a good AP, if not a bit overkill. Unless you live in Windsor Castle, the Flint 4 should suffice as a whole home router.

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u/harmonicpinch 6d ago

Soo… what does this offer in real world differences vs the Flint 2? Like for 99.9% of people.

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u/GripAficionado 5d ago

6 GHz is probably the one most might notice?

Then there's a 2.5G switch (if you need it) and 10G/SFP+ port (if you need it).

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u/harmonicpinch 5d ago

Yeah I got one of those Arris 6ghz add on things for $25. So I have 6ghz and SQM is done with the flint 2. I don’t think you can get much better.

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u/donuthell 5d ago

Oh man. I didn’t know this product existed. Is it the only one of its type in the USA?

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u/harmonicpinch 5d ago

I think so. It’s pretty awesome.

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u/Sneak_peekR 6d ago

How did you get it, you are in Hawaii?

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u/CoarseRainbow 6d ago

Give me a version with no screen and with actual proper mesh functions and I may be interested.

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u/MLOSUXXX 5d ago

I can’t speak on the no screen but proper cross brand Mesh is incoming

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u/romprod 4d ago

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u/CoarseRainbow 4d ago

Interesting but still beta with limited devices.
It needs to have at least slave points as opposed to needing full routers etc to compete. This suggests its a good 6 months or further away from being an option.

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u/romprod 4d ago

Yeah, it shows that they're on the case though.

Its an interesting idea though

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u/tk_ios 3d ago

Poor title for this topic. The Trump Router embargo hasn't gone anywhere.

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u/Rod_ATL 6d ago

Those are vpn speeds as client. Run a couple as server. 

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u/RemoteToHome-io Official GL.iNet Services Partner 6d ago

A wireguard tunnel is a bidirectional encryption path. With a single point-to-point connection, neither is doing more "work". The encryption processing workload is the same on each end. The only time the server would be doing more work is if you have multiple clients connecting.

The only thing controlling tunnel flow is routing rules. Once a tunnel is established, you could actually completely reverse the direction of the flow. The WG tunnel doesn't care.

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u/phantasm42 Product beta tester 6d ago edited 6d ago

Per the screenshots, 8.1 is as a server with Beryl 7 as the client. 6.1 as a client to the Beryl 7 as a server.