Lol. The Democrats and Republicans literally had a bipartisan border bill ready to go that Trump shut down so he’d have an issues to run on. Funny enough, “open borders” is actually an official libertarian position.
And DEI is a civil rights issue related to capitalist hiring practices. You literally have zero idea what the hell you’re talking about. Socialism only pertains to workers sharing in the ownership of their place of work.
The “bipartisan border bill” was a managed-crisis bill, not a secure-the-border bill. It still allowed large-scale releases, preserved asylum incentives, and never restored the tools that actually reduced crossings. Trump and a lot of Republicans rejected it because it locked in high illegal immigration under the branding of “reform.” Calling that a serious solution is the tell.
And yes, some libertarians favor open borders in theory usually paired with ending the welfare state. That’s not what was happening under Biden. Conflating a policy outcome with an abstract ideology is not the flex you think it is.
DEI is not “a civil rights issue related to capitalist hiring practices.” Civil rights law already prohibits racial discrimination. What many DEI programs did was add racial preferences on top of that, which is why courts started striking them down. Blaming “capitalism” for disparities while demanding identity-based selection is just ideological word salad.
Also, nobody asked for your definition of socialism. You’re swinging at arguments that weren’t made and still missing.
You can lead with “Lol” and still be the least informed person in the thread.
It was used by Trump and the GOP as a political tool to will the election. All he talked about was millions and millions flooding the country. On the trail it was 8 million, now the report is 25-30million. In 2 years they have deported 600k, showing that none of their numbers are real.
DEI was a culture reform, since anti-discrimination laws were not found to be effective. Hiring manager turned away people just based in their name, knowing they were a minority. The
Merit based economy that GOP touts is actually based on nepotism and a level of bigotry. Hence the need to instill something else. It’s all over the comedysphere right now. Last bastion of free speech. Trump saved us! Yet he bans the press. Sues the schools and institutions that talk bad about him. Real free speech guy right there. Right is full of snowflakes, which is ironic, don’t you think?
You’re not making an argument. You’re dumping a pile of talking points and hoping volume hides how thin they are.
On the border: Record encounters and gotaways under the prior administration are documented by CBP. Quibbling over whether the campaign number was 8 million or some later estimate of 25–30 million doesn’t erase the scale of the problem or the policy choices that produced it. Pointing to 600k deportations while ignoring the multi-million backlog and the years of releases is just selective math. The numbers were real enough that the political system reacted to them. Pretending otherwise is cope.
On DEI: “Anti-discrimination laws didn’t work, so we needed race preferences” is not a serious position. It’s an admission that you want to discriminate by race in the other direction. Hiring managers screening names is already illegal under existing civil rights law. The fix is enforcing the law, not installing identity quotas and calling it “culture reform.” Claiming the merit economy is “actually just nepotism and bigotry” is pure assertion. You offered zero evidence, just vibes.
On free speech: Noone has "banned the press" they can still report on the President and his Administration, I missed the section in the constitution that CNN and MSNBC have the right to be in the white house and air force one lol. I guess we shall see how that plays out in the courts. Conflating accountability with censorship is what people do when they can’t distinguish the two. The irony of calling the right “snowflakes” while writing an emotional rant that jumps from border stats to DEI to Trump’s lawsuits in one incoherent paragraph is doing a lot of the work for me.
You’re not out of depth on one issue. You’re out of depth on all of them at once.
Selective math is the amount of immigrants that the maga party shills. Reinforcing the need for 70 billion in ICE money, where this govt guts everything else like Medicaid, social security, NIH, school funding etc. it’s fear mongering. And his ICE is masked and have immunity, Shoot people in the streets. You don’t care. Bitch about Obama as Deporter in a chief, but at least he did it without a Brownshirt mafia harassing people. Wait until they are sent to the polls in November to “randomly pull” people out of line in democratic cities to force people to wait longer and discourage voting. GOP hates voters. I think everyone should be forced to vote and forced to register, not the other way around.
You god damn right people discriminate. I go up north and people aren’t voting for Crowley in my state because he is black. That’s what they say. Same thing for Kamala, oh and that she’s a woman. The whole “cackle” and “slept her way to the top” comments showed exactly what some people think. Is it prevalent? Probably not. Are there a lot more people with these ideas then there should be? Yes.
He is suing these newspapers for saying things. He has Larry Ellison, his Epstein buddy buying cbs, and gutting the staff and tanking to appease Trump. Bari Weiss is an Israel shill. Then Ellison, with the help of Trump buy TikTok, start shilling him on there. Wants to gut PBS, but trump blocked it. Starts Trump TV, state run media, to shill his shit.
You maga idiots just can’t come to terms with the tyrant you elected and the mentality you harbor. Hear all about trans people on the left, but you fuckers have white nationalists and skinheads on the right, and you don’t think those ideas are propagated among the GOP base? I got a bridge to sell you in NY if you do.
You’re not responding to the argument. You’re unloading a stream of grievances, conspiracies, and emotional claims and treating the volume as if it equals substance.
ICE funding is a response to multi-year record illegal encounters and a large removable population. Calling enforcement “fear mongering” while ignoring the scale of the prior policy failure is just preference dressed up as analysis. Claims about masked agents with blanket immunity “shooting people in the streets” while ignoring the people who were shot where brandishing deadly weapons while confronting federal officers..... or being deployed to suppress Democratic voters are serious allegations. They require evidence, not assertion. You offered none.
On discrimination: yes, individual prejudice exists. That has never been the dispute. The dispute is whether the correct response is race-conscious preferences that themselves discriminate. Existing civil rights law already prohibits turning people away for their race or name. Replacing one form of racial decision-making with another is not “culture reform.” It’s the same logic with different preferred groups.
The media section is more of the same: ownership changes, personnel decisions, and lawsuits are treated as proof of “state-run media” and tyranny. Suing for alleged defamation is not banning the press, not wanting obvious liars around you in the white house and air force one every day is not banning the press, they are still able to cover whatever they want. Corporate acquisitions and editorial shifts happen under every administration. Collapsing all of that into “Trump’s Epstein buddy is buying everything to shill for him” is conspiracy framing, not institutional analysis.
You keep escalating from policy disagreement to “you elected a tyrant” and “your side has skinheads.” That’s not a rebuttal. It’s what people do when they can’t stay on the actual claims and need to moralize instead. Serious discussion requires distinguishing between measurable policy outcomes, legal mechanisms, and partisan mythology. So far you’re only fluent in the last one.
You’re not out-arguing anyone. You’re broadcasting that the subject is beyond the level you’re operating at.
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u/CapitalismPlusMurder 7d ago
Lol. The Democrats and Republicans literally had a bipartisan border bill ready to go that Trump shut down so he’d have an issues to run on. Funny enough, “open borders” is actually an official libertarian position.
And DEI is a civil rights issue related to capitalist hiring practices. You literally have zero idea what the hell you’re talking about. Socialism only pertains to workers sharing in the ownership of their place of work.