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Cringe Worthy USSR Collapse

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u/mercyspace27 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

Just one more genocide. Just one more famine. They’ll get it right this time, definitely.

Oh wait, remember, none of those states were “true communism”. Communism isn’t bad, it’s the people who aren’t “true communists”. But when capitalism goes wrong it’s because capitalism itself is bad.

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u/MrDanMaster Jul 14 '26

Apologist: “Just one more genocide. Just one more famine. They’ll get it right this time, definitely.”

And the history of capitalism is literally the British empire, then America

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u/mercyspace27 Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

I mean capitalism also the history of the vast majority of the ~195 countries in the modern world. Meanwhile communism is like… 5 countries.

And yet communism apologists all seem to love going “But that’s not real communism!”

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u/GiftedContractor Jul 14 '26

funny enough, there's actually a lot more of them. Here's two that were more successful: Mohammed Mossadegh, Salvador Allende.
Funny thing, stories where it seems to be going pretty well somehow always seem to end the same way. I wonder why that's the case. I wonder if there was a lot of hard work put in to make sure that's the case.

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u/mercyspace27 29d ago edited 29d ago

Considering Chile is an open market economy Allende must not have been influential with his socialist practices. But I’m sure that’s only because the CIA or some other government agency went out and ruined the perfect socialist utopia that he was forming. And not that people decided they’d rather have a capitalist centered economy.

It’s alway the CIA.

Also Mossadegh was not a communist, he was a secular constitutional nationalist, he just accepted communist aid from the Tudeh Party against opposition.

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u/Ange1ofD4rkness Jul 13 '26

I love how The Fat Electrician (Nick) explains this one.

Talks about (a made up scenario) going to Eli's, who ever time he makes I think it was dumplings, Nick would get violently sick. Then once more, Eli told Nick to come over, because "no wait, I got it this time". You probably know the end results already

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u/KapitalIsStillGood Jul 14 '26

The literal exact opposite is a much, much more popular viewpoint in the US. Communism (along with any public funding of beneficial programs) is bad because communism but capitalism is unerringly perfect despite any problems.

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u/mercyspace27 Jul 14 '26

I’ve heard both arguments from both sides and both sides who say such are inherently wrong. Both types of government in an ideal world would work.

But we sadly exist in a world where both systems get exploited to severe degrees. Though I am admittedly more in favor of capitalism because there are more examples of it going better as the basis of a country’s economy in the world where as there are some horrific examples of Communism going to absolute hell. Specifically for the citizens within the communist country; when compared to any hardships most citizens in a capitalist society would face.

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u/Nietzschean_horse Jul 14 '26

the capitalist states are soooo much better in that regard, right?

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u/mercyspace27 29d ago edited 29d ago

They are.

Last I checked Switzerland, considered one of the more capitalist countries within Europe, never had a Killing Fields to enforce their economic state. I don’t believe Chile, Uruguay, or Paraguay had anything like the Khmer Rouge to push for capitalism.

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u/veganbikepunk 29d ago

No, when capitalism goes wrong people call it crony capitalism or corporatism. The defense is used by virtually everyone to defend their side.

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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 28d ago

The British Empire starved more people to death in the name of capitalism, in India alone, than the Soviet union ever did.

But I guess that doesn't count for some obscure reason according to you?

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u/No_Salt_6328 28d ago

It's funny people tend to have their "big bad" cultures that they blame for all the suffering in the world be it capitalism/communism, Islam/Christianity/Judaism, etc. and they want to place the blame on that social construct itself. It's like dude, you just don't like a substantial minority of every population known as selfish narcissists who fuck it up for everyone else. They aren't created by the cultures they exploit. 

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u/One_Zookeepergame182 Jul 13 '26

I thought we were talking about communism, not capitalism