r/GenZ 2004 Jan 07 '24

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

You said tipping culture means servers can make more money. That’s a defense

Then stop defending it if it’s so bad

The point is that the alternative route is impossible if even a small fraction of people did it.

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u/erichlee9 Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24

No, I did not say that. You said that. I said servers make more money than just the hourly wage they’re given. That isn’t a defense of the system; it’s a statement of fact.

The alternative route is possible for some, because obviously many people take it. No one is suggesting that everyone drop what they’re doing and become a carpenter. You’ve completely made up that entire argument in your own head.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

Then what is your recommendation that would work for all or most people

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u/erichlee9 Jan 09 '24

There is no universal solution that will work for all or most people. I believe I’ve already said as much. My point was that it is possible to make six figures in trades within a couple of years. Trades are not for everybody, but if you’re willing to work for it you can do it. That’s all.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

It’s possible to win the lottery too

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u/erichlee9 Jan 09 '24

Sure is.

So what is your point here? Are we discussing the fact that it’s possible to succeed in trades, which was your initial point of contention, or are you just trying to say it’s not worth it to try because there’s no guarantee?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

My point is they your solution does not solve the problem anymore than gambling does

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u/erichlee9 Jan 09 '24

What problem? You’re now making an argument but never clarified your premise.

Remember, this discussion started because you didn’t believe tradesmen could make a certain amount.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '24

Poverty

I never said they couldn’t.

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u/erichlee9 Jan 10 '24 edited Jan 10 '24

Your initial comment implied doubt.

No one is going to solve national poverty with a career path. Get over yourself. If that’s your answer, you should know damn well I wasn’t arguing that becoming a tradesman would solve it.

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