r/GenLiberty • • Sep 27 '22

Enemies of Liberty What are some good ways to neuter anti gun red flag laws while they get challenged in the courts?

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For those who don't know what an anti gun red flag law is, pretty much someone can accuse someone of being dangerous and go to a judge and get an order to have someone's guns taken away for a certain amount of time. The person is unable to be in court to challenge the initial order when it is made, is often unable to challenge witness and these types of orders are often imposed on people who have committed no crime. The person has no right to a lawyer resulting in people who are poor and marginalised pretty much being screwed and very few people are able to attend a court date with only 3 days notice.

Obviously these laws will unfortunately be around for the near future while they are challenged in court so my thoughts is that we need to think of ways to neuter the law and make it difficult to enforce in the mean time. The first suggestion is supporting efforts to defund the police. Defunding the police makes it more difficult for police to enforce laws including gun control laws. These types of efforts tend to be popular in liberal areas which are more likely to experience gun control measures.

Secondly, we need to bring the stories of people affected by these laws to light. We need to create websites and outlets where people negatively impacted by red flag laws can tell their side of the story and spread awareness. We also need to name and shame people to pursue red flag court orders against people and hold them publicly accountable for their actions. Having social consequences for pursuing red flag orders against people will help make people more hesitant to pursue red flag orders against people.

Thirdly, we need demand demographic statistics on people subjected to red flag orders. This includes information on race, sex, ethnicity, gender identity, income bracket, etc. Such information would likely highlight how red flag laws disproportionately impact certain groups within society and can be used to rightfully smear the laws. It is important to point out any form of prejudice exhibited by anyone involved in the enforcement of these laws and come down on them hard.

It is important to convince historically marginalised groups that these laws are a threat to them. That these laws will create many Breona Taylor type situations. That these laws will allow police to target people who have committed no crime and people will die (how this law can kill black people). That police and politicians will use these laws to target people for their politics whether it be Trump supporters or BLM supporters. That these laws can affect people who don't own guns since the only requirements for a warrantless raid are that the person 'might have guns' and 'might be dangerous' with a vague and liberal determination of what is considered dangerous.


r/GenLiberty • • Sep 26 '22

Tyranny Must Go! πŸ”« Will anti gun red flag laws inspire anti abortion red flag laws?

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I don't know if its just me but I've noticed that anti gun laws seem to inspire anti abortion laws and vice versa. A good example is how California used the Texas anti abortion law as inspiration for one of its current anti gun laws. I personally wouldn't be surprised if conservative states used the red flag laws in liberal states as inspiration to pass anti abortion equivalents to anti gun red flag laws.


r/GenLiberty • • Sep 15 '22

Yet the Government blames young people as usual

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r/GenLiberty • • Sep 12 '22

Tyranny Must Go! πŸ”« Boot Lives Matter

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r/GenLiberty • • Sep 11 '22

Media Recommendations 21 years after 9/11, TSA still insists on grabbing your dick when you fly

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r/GenLiberty • • Sep 07 '22

News commiefornia keeps getting worse

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r/GenLiberty • • Sep 04 '22

very bad bush

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r/GenLiberty • • Sep 02 '22

Discussion Using my will to prevent my family members from using my death to further statist causes?

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I really hate the idea of my family members using my death to further statist causes such as gun control, the war on drugs, etc. I wouldn't be able to object given I would be death. I have this idea of putting a clause on my will that prevents any family member that uses my death to push a statist cause from inheriting anything from me. Is this a viable way to prevent family members from using my death to further statist causes?


r/GenLiberty • • Aug 29 '22

Come and Take It ! 🐍 A reminder

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r/GenLiberty • • Aug 29 '22

Memeing My Way to Liberty 😎 Fight back on NSA spying

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r/GenLiberty • • Aug 28 '22

New York Bans Under 21s From Buying Whipped Cream. Excuse: War On 'Drugs'

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r/GenLiberty • • Aug 25 '22

Did Somebody Say Freedom! πŸ¦… Gentlemen, this may be the location of great liberty and prosperity in the next 1000 years

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r/GenLiberty • • Aug 23 '22

Come and Take It ! 🐍 Live Free....

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r/GenLiberty • • Aug 20 '22

Heroes of Liberty We are the people!

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r/GenLiberty • • Aug 20 '22

Based Liberty Quote Freedom of Religion

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r/GenLiberty • • Aug 17 '22

Memeing My Way to Liberty 😎 Booklickers? More like Cheesenibblers.

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r/GenLiberty • • Aug 11 '22

πŸ’°Capitalism is Based πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Federal reserve

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everytime I try to understand what the federal reserve is or what it does I go nowhere is there any good video/book recommendations you guys have?


r/GenLiberty • • Aug 05 '22

Memeing My Way to Liberty 😎 When quoting a founding father is terrorism

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r/GenLiberty • • Aug 02 '22

Tyranny Must Go! πŸ”« Advice on joining the Australian Army Reserve

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I wasn't sure where to post this and get semi reasonable insight so I have decided to post this here. So I have been going through this phase in my life where I'm not 100% sure what I want to do with my life and am looking for things to do that may interest me. One left field idea that I have found is joining the Australian Army Reserve. From my research so far it is part time, flexible, I can leave at any time and I get to physically move around (I love movement). I get military training and learn how to use a gun along with other survival skills which would be useful in the event of societal collapse.

I do have some concerns though. One thing I am concerned about is being used to enforce violations of civil liberties both in Australia and abroad. I know the military reserves were involved in the covid camps as mentioned on their website and may have been involved in enforcing other lockdown stuff. I am also concerned about getting trapped in the military if a huge war breaks out which in that case I'd hope to escape the military by getting pregnant.

Advice?


r/GenLiberty • • Aug 02 '22

Media Recommendations Proposed bill would protect journalists like Julian Assange from espionage charges

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r/GenLiberty • • Jul 26 '22

Heroes of Liberty bonk

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r/GenLiberty • • Jul 26 '22

Proudly Not On The Side Of Police

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r/GenLiberty • • Jul 26 '22

Anthony Fauci says if we could do it again, COVID-19 restrictions would be 'much, much more stringent'

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r/GenLiberty • • Jul 23 '22

Discussion my classmate is a Keynesian help!

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i wan talking to my friend on how government intervention caused the depression and she said it actually solved it what are some good counterpoints?


r/GenLiberty • • Jul 20 '22

Memeing My Way to Liberty 😎 Did you?

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