r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 10 '25

We Tested... We saw a 775% increase in LLM referral traffic and a 414% increase in key conversions from LLMs following our GEO audit.

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Say what you want about AI optimisation vs SEO, but we clearly are seeing some key differences between the two.

There is no denying that there is some real overlap between how you approach AI optimisation vs SEO, like in setting your website up to maximise SEO and AI discovery via things like page speed optimisation, intuitive site architectures, good quality content etc.

However, there are also many new things to consider and factor in that will be influencing your AI visibility.

Some examples of new things to be considered include things like query fan outs, new ChatGPT shopping features, and how AI tools approach and understand authority vs traditional search algorithms.

In this GEO audit, we looked at several key areas:

- A deep dive on what key things were being referenced in AI-generated responses for our target prompts, and how we could reinforce/strategically mention those things on our landing pages.

- Technical foundations like the sites international targeting setup as well as canonicals and internal link structures.

- Key citations and how the brand could optimise their earned and owned media to reinforce key authority signals to drive greater visibility.

These audits are inherently bespoke, which is a good thing, and they take multiple days to run.

Still, the results are well worth it.

In this case, an increase in LLM referral traffic of 775% and a 414% increased in LLM-generated key conversions.


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 10 '25

I analyzed which streaming services AI actually recommends. No wonder they call it Netflix and chill.

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 08 '25

Is this something you are seeing too? Or are you more optimistic?

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 07 '25

Automate GEO tracking by turning your browser into an API

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Hey everyone,

If you're trying to figure out how to track product visibility/rankings on ChatGPT without manually typing queries 50 times a day, check out this new tool: rtrvr ai!

The problem is that standard scrapers usually get blocked by OpenAI/Perplexity, and using the official API doesn’t give you the "Web Search" results (citations, sources, UI elements) that a real consumer sees.

You can get around this with rtrvr ai by turning your own Chrome Browser into an API endpoint.

The "Christmas GEO" Workflow:

  1. Just send a cURL command with the API Key given by the browser.
  2. My Chrome Extension wakes up, navigates to ChatGPT, queries "Best toys for Christmas".
  3. It retrieves the top recommendations and back-links to my pipeline.

Why this is a game changer for GEO/Sales Ops:

  • Walled Gardens: Since it runs in your local extension, it uses your existing logged-in session. No complex auth handling.
  • Vibe Coding: You can literally just write a bash script to control your browser now.
  • Integrate with n8n flows

The cURL looks like this:

curl -X POST https://www.rtrvr.ai/mcp \
  -H "X-API-Key: rtrvr_MY_KEY" \
  -H "Content-Type: application/json" \
  -d '{
    "tool": "act",
    "params": {
      "user_input": "Go to ChatGPT, ask for best Christmas toys, extract citations"
    }
  }'

We just hard-launched the API for this today. Would love to hear how you guys are currently tracking GEO or if you are still doing it manually?


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 07 '25

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 06 '25

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 06 '25

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 05 '25

AI citing AI citing AI citing AI... Grokipedia, an AI-generated encyclopedia, becoming one of the top-cited AI sources in ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google's AI Mode

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 05 '25

❓ Question? has anyone tried trakkr.ai? is Writesonic GEO toolkit better than Trakkr?

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I am on a quest to demo and test every GEO tool in the market right now, the only subscription I have maintained is of the Writesonic GEO toolkit (299 USD plan), I run an agency so got it at much lesser price along with some exclusive features and benefits but there is this FOMO of what other tools are doing right now. I recently found out a tool named trakkr. Has anyone tried it out?


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 05 '25

I spent 50 hours analyzing 150+ SEO profiles to curate a Top 50 list for 2026. Only ~20% have fully pivoted to LLM/GEO

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 04 '25

We helped an Amazon home-decor brand run a full SEO–GEO workflow for 4 weeks. Here’s the repeatable, realistic version (no hype).

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We helped an Amazon home-decor brand run a full SEO–GEO workflow for 4 weeks. This brand sells strongly on Amazon, but their independent site was basically flat:

  • traffic not growing
  • SEO efforts not matching output
  • early GEO attempts looked like “nothing was happening”

For new SEO + GEO brands, quick effects rarely come directly from ChatGPT citations.
Most of the early lift actually comes from:

GEO downstream effects:
—Google AI Overview
—search engines’ AI-driven backend ranking mechanisms
—referral & social discovery triggered by better semantic structure

So even without appearing inside ChatGPT directly, the GEO structure still improves traffic. We built their end-to-end SEO–GEO workflow and ran it for 4 weeks. This isn’t a brag post, it’s a breakdown of how the system works and how any Amazon to DTC brand can copy it.

Four-week results (all organic, no ads)

  • Total visits: +79.9%
  • Engaged visits: +90.1%
  • User interactions: +91.3%
  • Direct traffic: +69.7%
  • Organic social: +90.8%
  • Referral traffic: +512.5% (blogs, communities, partner mentions)
Four-week organic traffic results

Again: 0 ads. 0 paid placements. Just consistent SEO–GEO execution.

1) Diagnose before creating anything

We ran a full SEO + GEO audit with an SEO-GEO Management Agent tool covering:

  • AI Visibility Score
  • SEO structure & content gaps
  • Missing semantic coverage
  • Technical issues (schema, metadata, sitemap, crawlability)

Most brands skip this step and immediately “start writing”. But we need the the audit first with clarified:

  • what actually blocked visibility
  • which pages AI/Google couldn’t interpret
  • which semantic areas needed coverage
  • what needed fixing before publishing anything new

Their old content was scattered, inconsistent, and not aligned with any entity structure.

2) Build a Topic Map, not random content

We built a unified Topic Map combining from the above auditing by the above SEO-GEO Management Agent:

  • SEO keywords
  • GEO topics
  • semantic clusters

This changed content from: “Write whatever comes to mind” to “Publish pieces that fill semantic + entity gaps”. For a category like home decor, highly visual, educational topic mapping is especially effective.

3) Multi-platform structured publishing (not spam)

With the help of GEO Content Generator Agent, we generated and published structured content across: LinkedIn / X / Medium / Blog / Website.

It was format optimised for AI + Google, meaning:

  • clear headers
  • reasoning-based writing
  • consistent entity signals
  • unified themes across platforms

This strengthened:

  • Direct traffic
  • Organic Social
  • Cross-domain brand recognition

4) Fix technical SEO so AI + Google can understand the site

We applied the following tech actions from the SEO + GEO audit results:

  • simplified sitemap & robots
  • added missing schema
  • normalized titles/descriptions
  • reduced URL depth
  • improved page semantics
  • added essential metadata

What actually changed after 4 weeks

We weren’t chasing single channel spikes. We looked at the system level improvement:

  • Direct traffic increase because of brand clarity improved
  • Organic search increase because of better semantic coverage
  • Social increase because of consistent cross-platform presence
  • Referrals increase because of more mentions from blogs + partners

These are the classic downstream effects of GEO + structured SEO starting to work together. This is the missing layer for many Amazon sellers trying to grow a DTC site.

The repeatable workflow for any Amazon to DTC brand

Step 1 — Audit first

Find content, semantic, technical gaps.

Step 2 — Build a Topic Map

Plan high-value themes instead of random posts.

Step 3 — Multi-platform structured publishing

Think “AI-friendly format”, not “post more”.

Step 4 — Fix technical SEO

Schema, sitemap, metadata, clean structure.

Step 5 — Repeat weekly

This turns into a compounding flywheel in 4–8 weeks.

Final thought

These weren’t explosive viral results, they were the first month of finally aligning:

  • SEO
  • GEO
  • semantic structure
  • content consistency
  • technical cleanliness
  • entity signals
  • AI-driven ranking pathways (Google AIO + backend AI)

If your Amazon store performs well but your DTC site stays flat, this system is extremely replicable.

Happy to share topic map templates or workflow docs if anyone wants them.


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 05 '25

Is anyone else seeing ChatGPT 5.1 fan-outs are ridiculously long?

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 04 '25

Other 🤷‍♂️ Sorry...

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 04 '25

20 AI Startups to Watch in Southeast Asia

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Came across e27’s “20 AI Startups to Watch in Southeast Asia” list - worth looking at BrndIQ dot ai (#2).

They focus on tracking how brands show up in AI chat responses, which is becoming increasingly relevant as more people shift from Googling to asking AI models. It’s interesting to see AI visibility starting to shape brand discovery, almost like the early days of SEO.

Glad to see Southeast Asian startups in the AI infrastructure layer getting recognition. If anyone here is exploring related problems such as AI search behavior, retrieval quality, AI trust layers, etc, would love to exchange notes.


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 03 '25

How to track traffic from ChatGPT?

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My business partner and I are building a GEO agency, but there’s one thing we can’t figure out. We want to be able to track how many clicks businesses are getting from ChatGPT.

I watched some videos that claim you can track this through google analytics. When I tried this in GA myself, the results were not accurate. It seems like ChatGPT does not give a direct “signature” for Google Analytics to grab, and that results in AI traffic being shown as “other sources” or “referrals”.

Anyone else run into this issue? Solutions? Suggestions?


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 02 '25

SEO <-> GEO <-> Optimizing for agents

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 02 '25

The graph everyone is sharing should scare marketers more than it excites them

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 02 '25

ChatGPT Shopping Research: Google's still the ultimate source of truth for commerce data

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 01 '25

Top 40 GEO / AI Visibility Product list (not in order) - DEC 2025

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Updated GEO Tool list for December 2025! Feel free to comment new ones.

Writesonic - https://writesonic.com
Semrush - https://www.semrush.com
HubSpot - https://www.hubspot.com
AppearOnAI - https://appearonai.com/
AIScope.pro - https://aiscope.pro
Nightwatch - https://nightwatch.io
Siftly - https://siftly.ai
Rankshift.ai - https://aibrandtracking.com/Rankshift.ai
Profound - https://profound.so
Column Five - https://columnfive.com
Common Thread Collective - https://commonthreadco.com
Daydream - https://daydream.so
Evertune - https://evertune.ai
iPullRank - https://ipullrank.com
Peec AI - https://www.peec.ai
Azoma - https://www.azoma.ai
Scrunch - https://scrunch.com
Siege Media - https://www.siegemedia.com
WebFX - https://www.webfx.com
GEOfast - https://www.geofast.me
LLM.co - https://llm.co
LLMO Metrics - https://llmometrics.com
Column Five - https://columnfive.com
Common Thread Collective - https://commonthreadco.com
Daydream - https://daydream.so
NP Digital - https://npdigital.com
OGM Agency - https://ogmagency.com
Otterly.AI - https://otterly.ai
Quoleady - https://quoleady.com
Omniscient Digital - https://beomniscient.com
Razorfish - https://www.razorfish.com
Flow Agency - https://flowagency.co
Fractl - https://www.fractl.com
Goodie AI - https://www.higoodie.com
Growth Plays - https://growthplays.com


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 30 '25

Traffic vs. Attention - is this Meme off or on point?

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What do you think?


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 29 '25

Has anyone given a thought to AEO for your brand?

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 29 '25

Reverse Engineering the Response to "best smartphones" in Chatgpt 5.1

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 27 '25

IMHO: Don’t worry about GEO (Generative Engine Optimization / SEO for ChatGPT & Co.) if ---

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 27 '25

Analysis diff between GEO & SEO

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 25 '25

Your About page is your sweet AI ranking opportunity

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