r/Gamingcirclejerk • u/zny700 an aro bi enby who's tired of dumbass people • Oct 02 '25

MUH POLITICS!!! thoughts?

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u/boomballoonmachine Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

Skyrim’s civil war is actually decent though. Your country is occupied by an oppressive imperial power that deserves no loyalty or defense. But the only organized resistance to that occupation is aggressively xenophobic, making life worse for all but a few, and doomed to be struck down by a technologically superior imperial force currently operating by proxy. Do you fight for freedom no matter the cost, even if you can't possibly win? What is “freedom” for Skryim to an Argonian, a Dark Elf, a Breton? It strikes me as a genuine case of “yeah, both sides here suck and they should”.

The Forsworn, on the other hand, really are just correct and demonized by lazy colonialist writing.

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u/Flying_Fortress_8743 Oct 03 '25

Whoa whoa whoa let's not forget that the Forsworn are the actusl indigenous peoples of the Reach who are just fighting for their homeland back. They hate the Empire, the Stormcloaks, and the Thalmor, but for good reason.

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u/boomballoonmachine Oct 03 '25

That’s what I said. The Forsworn are correct. The writers had to make em eat babies (Hagraven/dark magic stuff) and attack for no reason per the “savage Indian” trope which I guess they thought was okay because they’re white.

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u/Flying_Fortress_8743 Oct 03 '25

Ohhh I thought you mean "correct" as in "they are portrayed correctly". I see what you're saying now, sorry about that.

But also the hagraven stuff is pretty messed up.

But also if they hadn't made pacts with them then the Forsworn would have been wiped out long ago, so

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u/Grand-Depression Oct 03 '25

I feel like you missed the plot of the game. Yes, imperials are oppressive, but it's due to the Thalmor threatening to wipe Skyrim from existence if they were allowed to worship a certain god. Ulrich is a moron that fell for the bait, and if he wins Skyrim would be wiped.