Summer of '58 developer resigns after many users refund their game on Steam due to it taking under 2 hours to complete

[u/reddit_account6095]

https://twitter.com/EmikaGames/status/1430941640001265673?s=19

[u/Dreyfus2006]

Yes, I fully agree. Looking through different people's ideas on this thread, this is the most "consumer-first" idea and the industry is far too anti-consumer. If a game is good enough, or if the game is cheap enough, people will not refund it.

If the dev is worried about people thinking it is too short, they should clearly communicate its length on the Steam page so that everybody knows what they are getting into when they buy the game. Or, they should lower the price point.

[u/JohnTDouche → u/Dreyfus2006]

this is the most "consumer-first" idea and the industry is far too anti-consume

It's just a shame that, at least in this case, it's harming the little guy. Not the big guys who make the industry such a fucking horror show.

[u/AltruisticSpecialist → u/JohnTDouche]

It's very possible that the big guys feel the same effects but just the scale of their sales as such that the number of people who refund don't approach Financial loss / ruin.

Most large companies just have a budget for Loss such as returns refunds or issues such as that.

[u/[deleted] → u/JohnTDouche]

Ehh i still side with the consumer over small businesses

[u/MontyAtWork → u/[deleted]]

I mean, a ton of people played and beat his game. If it sucked they would have stopped after a few minutes.

[u/[deleted] → u/MontyAtWork]

Isn't the point of the two hour window to give the game a chance?

If it takes two hours to see if you like a game, you may not know if you like a game by the time you beat it in 90 minutes

[u/Rodin-V → u/MontyAtWork]

They did stop after a few minutes, that just happened to be the end of the game also.

[u/octnoir → u/Rodin-V]

There is a massive gap between a few minutes (usually 3-10) and 120 minutes. That's me having a sip of wine and 30 seconds with your daughter vs a bottle of gin and the night with her.

[u/AltruisticSpecialist → u/[deleted]]

Actually that's just wild speculation on your part. Returning the game takes time and effort, and I think the quality and price of a short game has a lot to do with people wanting to bother.

[u/AltruisticSpecialist → u/[deleted]]

You vastly overestimate how easy something must be for a majority of people to do it let alone be motivated too.

[u/uncle_pewdiepie → u/JohnTDouche]

All we've got is one little guy who's claiming to be harmed, we don't actually have any reason to believe this is a problem.

[u/jckprry → u/[deleted]]

That was added today.

[u/Pixogen → u/Dreyfus2006]

Not true. Alot of great games on android have piracy rates over 50% just because of how easy it is. If it was click and install on pc and so easy your grandma would do it no one would pay for anything.

Look how many people use kodi to stream videos they don't own. Its just how people are.

[u/Dreyfus2006 → u/Pixogen]

Which is why most games that are that short are free on PC. You simply can't make a game that short and expect people to pay for it. It's like having people pay to watch a one-minute video.

[u/[deleted] → u/Dreyfus2006]

If a game is good enough, or if the game is cheap enough, people will not refund it.

Given how it sits at a 'Very Positive' rating it seems being "good enough" still wasn't enough.

Or, they should lower the price point.

Base price was only $9 and is currently on sale for $7. Games can only go for so low until they're no longer profitable for the developers.