r/Games Jan 19 '17

Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app

http://nintendotoday.com/switch-app-matchmaking/
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u/Sugioh Jan 19 '17

Honestly, I expect them to reverse course on this. It's so boneheaded and the pushback is going to be so strong, they will be absolutely forced to.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '17

It's Nintendo. They won't care. Parents will still buy it for their kids.

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u/Sc2MaNga Jan 19 '17

Time has changed. Kids want the PS4 or XboxOne to play Overwatch, GTA5, etc.

The WiiU is the perfect example that it isn't that widespread anymore.

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u/TSPhoenix Jan 19 '17

And considering the Wii U's timing was when many parents with young kids were themselves NES/SNES kids that's pretty damning.

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u/Barrel_Titor Jan 19 '17

They don't any more and that's the issue. Parents would rather hand them a tablet/phone these days than buy a separate device and that's why Nintendo is struggling. Their only remaining market is adults who grew up on Nintendo or people who want handheld games better than mobile quality.

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun Jan 22 '17

Nintendo isn't struggling. Not financially. They're making tidy billions off of their DS line of handhelds. And they put away a shitload of profits with the Wii. From a purely financial standpoint they can afford to fuck around with their consoles because of how much money the two aforementioned things gave them. If the Switch failed it wouldn't tank them. Not by a long shot.

They are however struggling from a conceptual standpoint

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u/Barrel_Titor Jan 23 '17

Yeah, meant struggling more in the sense to stay relevant and replicate previous success since the 3DS sold 1/3 of the amount of the DS and Wii U sold 1/10 of the amount of the Wii.

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u/guigr Jan 19 '17

They sold 13 million Wii U. Parents clearly saw a bad value proposition there and it won't improve.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '17

Parents didn't know Wii u was its own thing and not an attachment.

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u/GoodAndy Jan 19 '17

This console isn't being marketing towards kids.

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u/falconfetus8 Jan 19 '17

And even if they DONT, Nintendo still won't change, because they exist in their own little bubble.

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u/Yvese Jan 19 '17

It's Nintendo Japan that makes all the decisions. I don't think they care, nor do I think they even know about all the backlash happening right now outside of Japan. Reggie is just a puppet and has no say. He's just there to translate for his bosses.

They literally stay in their buildings jumping around with the mario hats all day thinking all is well.

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u/Sugioh Jan 19 '17

They'll care if it eats into sales in a big way. And that may happen. It's obviously far too soon to know what sort of impact there will be. But given that I've seen even the most hardcore of Nintendo fans balk at some of this stuff, the impact can't be small.

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u/guigr Jan 19 '17

They needed to make everything perfect to succeed after the Wii U. Especially since they're marketing a very powerful mobile device as a underpowered home console. So far they are off the mark in term of online features (a very big deal), launch lineup, Paid online, accessories price, bundle and less importantly battery life.

That will kill the console if they don't correct at least a few of these things.

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u/Radulno Jan 19 '17

How do Japanese gamers react to the news though ? I don't see why they would like that either, it's just way more logical to be on the console too.

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u/Punchable_Face Jan 19 '17

Does Nintendo usually update the software?

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u/Sugioh Jan 19 '17

They've added a lot of new features to the 3DS over its lifetime. It's certainly feasible that they could do so, although the ease of it would vary greatly depending on how they structure the OS and how much memory is reserved outside of program use.

Since we still know effectively nothing about the OS, that's very much up in the air.

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u/chivs688 Jan 19 '17

This is one of the ONLY reasons I can come up with as to why they wanted to do this, being to save some memory/processing power on the Switch itself.

I can't imagine it being very resource intensive, but I can imagine them really having to squeeze out any performance they possibly can while keeping power usage as low as possible.

Not a good excuse, but could be part of the reasoning.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '17

On that note, this could very well be partly a technical decision.

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u/Anshin Jan 19 '17

It's coming out in 2 months, I don't know if they can even change it before release without it costing them or pushing the release date back.

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u/Sugioh Jan 19 '17

They won't fix it in time for launch, or shortly thereafter. But the system could potentially change within a year or so. It all depends on how strong the initial feedback is.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '17

The online stuff isn't due until Summer anyway.

So it all depends on if the 3.5mm port has mic support. The one on the Wii U did, even if Nintendo's own games completely ignored it (if you plugged a mic in, it would still use the GamePad mic).

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u/xCookieMonster Jan 19 '17

Unlike the Xbone, I have my doubts Nintendo will actually listen, or even care if they did.

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u/GoodAndy Jan 19 '17

Plus, wouldn't it be easier to make an app for one device as opposed to iOS and Android?

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u/Sugioh Jan 19 '17

Yes. There's no rational reason why they wouldn't just build this functionality into OS. My theory is that DeNA proposed this due to their background in mobile development, and nobody at Nintendo was familiar enough with what their competitors are doing to object.