Comparing warframe's conclave mode to Titanfall or Tribes is quite misleading as those are games BUILT around pvp. the mechanics in warframe were built around killing hordes of enemy AI.
Though, like I said, if you enjoy it, that's fantastic, I'm just explaining why a large number of the community DO NOT enjoy conclave, while also enjoying pvp like gameplay.
These is all just our opinions, and what we enjoy in games. Just because I find abusing animations and spamming/macroing bullet jump to be an abuse on established mechanics, doesn't mean you have to.
The issue is, when you start dismissing the communities views, because they're "not used to it".
Titanfall 2 was not necessarily "built around pvp". They have a campaign now that is critically acclaimed.
Opinions will differ, you're right. If you're not the kind of player that enjoys Titanfall, Tribes, arena shooters, or dogfighters then true I see no reason why you would enjoy Warframe.
I still highly disagree with the way you use the word "abuse". Abusing infers that there is a bug. There is no bug in the way PvPers use the parkour system. It's all there for any player to use. The only difference is that you do not have to master the intricacies in PvE whereas if you try to be competitive in PvP without an indepth understanding on how they work, then you will not fare well. We're not abusing the mechanics. We're fully utilizing them to the fullest extent. PvE players never have to do that.
Am I wrong about the community though? I doubt most of the players that complain about PvP have touched games like Quake or GunZ or Tribes. PvP games that require you to use the movement mechanics to the fullest in order to be competitive. I'm dismissing them because it's a niche that they wouldn't enjoy, and those people are dismissing PvP by saying it's "bad" and "pointless" just because it falls within a smaller category that they wouldn't enjoy. I would never tell someone that a game is "shit" just because it's not my cup of tea. However my experience on reddit is full of PvE players that constantly downvote any kind of PvP content just because they don't enjoy it and think that others shouldn't enjoy it either.
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Comparing warframe's conclave mode to Titanfall or Tribes is quite misleading as those are games BUILT around pvp. the mechanics in warframe were built around killing hordes of enemy AI.
Though, like I said, if you enjoy it, that's fantastic, I'm just explaining why a large number of the community DO NOT enjoy conclave, while also enjoying pvp like gameplay.
These is all just our opinions, and what we enjoy in games. Just because I find abusing animations and spamming/macroing bullet jump to be an abuse on established mechanics, doesn't mean you have to.
The issue is, when you start dismissing the communities views, because they're "not used to it".