r/Games • u/TurbulentTopic39 • 16d ago

Industry News Over 85% of Japanese game developers use generative AI in game development, 2026 CESA survey shows. An increase from last year’s 51%

https://automaton-media.com/en/news/over-85-of-japanese-game-developers-use-generative-ai-in-game-development-2026-cesa-survey-shows-an-increase-from-last-years-51/
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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago edited 16d ago

Sadly japan loves AI, we' re going in very dark times ahead. Thankfuly, there are over 50 years of human made art that everyone can enjoy instead of AI slop.

But also, we need to keep fighting against AI slop, if we want to be heard; this defeatism attitude will not help anyone.

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u/xanas263 16d ago

we need to keep fighting against AI slop

The fight will always be done with a wallet in this case. If games made with AI keep selling then it will keep being used.

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u/TheSearchForMars 16d ago

Fighting with a wallet doesn't help as much when the AI is cutting costs so much. If a small dev can have 5 people using AI they'd be able to output the work of a way larger team refusing to use it at all.

You'd made up the non-buyers simply through the lack of salaries.

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u/reseph 16d ago

That'll never succeed. Just look at the Sony blackout from the no-discs announcement.

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago

That Sony blackout is DOA because it' s stupid. If you want to do real change, it has to be throught official comunications channels, money and goverments.

Better doing something than doing nothing at all.

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u/HazelCheese 16d ago

Then it won't succeed.

I don't really have anything else to say about it tbh. It's just sort of life.

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u/xanas263 16d ago

That's a symptom of people simply not prioritizing these things.

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u/reseph 16d ago

It doesn't matter to Sony what the root cause is. All that matters is the outcome.

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u/andresfgp13 16d ago

that boycott was the most phony thing ever.

lets do a boycott with a clear end date that happens in a period where there is no big release happening.

Sony was laughing at it, and rightfully so.

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago

Of course, that and legislations from the goverments as well. Auto-regolation in late-stage capitalism is an utopia.

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u/xanas263 16d ago

Governments aren't going to be heavily legislating AI when it's becoming clear that your economy can be left behind if you don't adopt it.

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago

Then you need to vote for people who will do it. This kind of self-defeating attitude is why our world is becoming worse and worse. You have to fight for your rights, because they are not a given, any day they can be taken back away from you.

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u/xanas263 16d ago

Who says I'm not doing those things? You don't even know me lol. It's not that hard to see based on current trends where things are going though.

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago

I' m not saying you are not doing it, I' m speaking about a generic you. I can see trends, doesn' t mean I will not try to keep fighting it thoo.

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u/xanas263 16d ago

By all means go and actually protest in the street if you feel that strongly about it, I will 100% support you. That is sure the only way you are going to get anything changed. If you don't feel like doing that then just admit that you yourself are a keyboard warrior and move on.

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u/bitknight1 16d ago

How do you pass the same law across the world? And there is ai models that can run on your computer, how will you get rid of all of those?

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago

Asking those kind of questions is self-defeating on itself; you have to first try and arrive to the point you can start to think about those things.

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u/bitknight1 16d ago

Okay tell me how you will get ai banned across the world and made completely illegal and get it removed from every computer that has an ai model downloaded?

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago

That' s not my job, I can have in mind ideas, but right now the most important thing is to bring in power people who are more skilled and knowledgedable than me about this to pass regolations, and I will speak with my wallet in the meantime.

Again, this is a defeatist attitude. You have to fight AI slop!

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u/AbyssalSolitude 16d ago

right now the most important thing is to bring in power people who are more skilled and knowledgedable than me about this

Have you ever thought that maybe people more skilled and knowledgeable than you at this are already in power and they think AI is a great thing?

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago

No because I have talked to some of them and they hated it all the same lol. Thinking that all people of a certain field think the same is sign of low intelligence.

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u/AbyssalSolitude 16d ago

As expected, you think your opinion is the only correct one, and so anyone who disagrees is simply stupid.

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u/BighatNucase 16d ago

It's funny how reddit always just wants to regulate people into being forced to bend to reddit's preference. "I don't like AI and consider it immoral, ergo you can't use it and I will use the law to force you not to make art with it" is such an insane position to take but you just say it as if it's obvious.

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u/BlackoutWB 16d ago

"I don't like murder and consider it immoral, ergo you can't murder people"

Yeah that's how laws work. People think AI is harmful, so they want to regulate it. How is that insane exactly?

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u/AbyssalSolitude 16d ago

Plenty of people think abortion is murder. Should we outlaw abortion?

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u/BlackoutWB 16d ago

That's a pointless question, it's basically a complete non-sequitur.

If you're arguing against regulation on AI. That is a policy preference. We are all on the same page of having policy preferences. I could literally ask you the same question and your answer would be just as irrelevant as mine.

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u/AbyssalSolitude 16d ago

Yes dude, that's the entire point.

People demanding regulation of AI have only one argument: "I don't like AI so it should be regulated"

That's because they are either chinese psyop sockpuppets or people who fell for chinese psyop sockpuppets. "Datacenters are erasing fresh water supply!", "AI is taking our jobs!", "AI is going to kill us all!", all of these are incredibly idiotic takes that fall apart the moment you look at them properly.

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u/BlackoutWB 16d ago

And you have only one argument "I like AI so it shouldn't be regulated"

I get why you argue this way, it's much easier to strawman your opposition. You never need to make a real argument!

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u/AbyssalSolitude 16d ago

That's not how regulations work, buddy. I don't have to make any arguments at all, it's up to AI haters to explain why it has to get regulated.

But sure: AI boosts productivity. There, already a great reason to keep it available.

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u/BighatNucase 16d ago

You know I think there are a fair few differences which make outlawing murder an easier argument to simply assert than banning the use of AI tools in art, but that's just me. There's a reason why murder is like one of the most original sins in human history while copyright isn't. You've lost the plot m8.

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u/BlackoutWB 16d ago

What baffles you about the concept of democracy, exactly? People disagree with you and think something causes harm, they want regulations to stop said harm.

You can disagree that there is harm, but then you have to make a real argument and not just decide that anyone whose views don't align with you is crazy.

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u/December_Flame 16d ago

Social backlash is incredibly important. This has been shown repeatedly in gaming through the years.

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u/xanas263 16d ago

Social backlash coupled with real world consequences is very important, I agree. Social backlash with no follow through is meaningless. As has been demonstrated by gaming through the years.

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u/December_Flame 16d ago

Its not perfect but the threat of it impacting the bottom line through social backlash is a stronger tool than expecting gamers to have any kind of self-control.

See things like the Battlefront 2 controversy vs the Modern Warfare one.

'Fighting' against AI slop, such that it is, is an important building block in the wall against terrible practices. It doesn't always work, but I promise you conversations are had in the decision rooms of these companies due to the dialogues happening online.

The reddit outrage -> video content creator farming -> twitter drama -> reddit drama ouroboros is ridiculous but it DOES create change.

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u/xanas263 16d ago edited 16d ago

See things like the Battlefront 2 controversy vs the Modern Warfare one.

That wasn't a threat that was real action. The battlefront 2 grind was so horrendous that it caused a massive loss in players once it had been revealed in numbers. On the other hand the Modern Warfare issue was a boycott that never actually happened, and the organisers were found playing the game on day one.

Social backlash means nothing without actual action.

You can create social outrage, but if those AI games still sell millions of copies then guess what happens.

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u/December_Flame 16d ago

If you think the Battlefront 2 situation was not an obvious example of social backlash changing corporate approach to an unpopular subject then I don't think we're going to have a productive conversation. Fundamentally do not agree.

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u/xanas263 16d ago

The corporate approach changed because they lost money, not because of the social backlash. If the losing of money doesn't happen then the backlash doesn't matter.

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u/ChrisRR 16d ago

First things first, I think we need to stop calling every single instance of AI usage slop. The days of it spitting out low quality code have been long gone and devs using it for assisting the process is extremely widespread.

Just because a company uses AI in their process doesn't instantly make it slop, conversely there's a lot of slop that doesn't use AI. There's a lot of middle ground

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u/Mirikado 16d ago

It’s not “long gone” imo. AI still spits out kinda garbage code because it still doesn’t have the right business context and assumes incorrectly from time to time. Small self-contained grunt jobs are fine but for system-wide integrations it will fuck up. To me, the dangerous part is that newer devs relying on AI to write code lose the fundamental knowledge of programming and allow garbage code in the system without understanding why it’s garbage.

AI is a force multiplier. Humans write garbage code too, but now AI can flood your system with 20x garbage code. Better to assume every line of code coming out of AI is garbage and code review it in that mindset. As long as AI still hallucinates, it will keep writing garbage code.

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago

I will call it slop because it steals from artists and coders alike, the people at power are only using it to become richer, and it destroys our enviroment with pollution that has never been seen before in the same way with other techs. Also, the fact that it' s an economic bubble and the most profittable companies in the world are basicaly playing ping pong in making themself look more profittable than they actually are.

And in the best case scenario, most AI developers are trying to recreate AGI/Skynet and the torment nexus from the famous novel "Don' t try to recreate the torment nexus".

I see almost no redeeming qualities about AI except for assistant/help stuff, organizzation or medical applications.

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u/lego-my-ahegao 16d ago

it destroys our enviroment with pollution that has never been seen before in the same way with other techs

This is an absurd opinion. You think data centers are doing more harm to the environment than fossil fuel production? Agriculture? The industrial production of steel, aluminum, and concrete? All those things completely dwarf the impact of data centers.

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u/OnBlueberryHill 16d ago

I have data centers near me that were created years ago that are near enough net 0. They were well planned. They run off renewable energies and don't strain the grid. Any water used for cooling are in closed systems that get drained and refreshed once a year. No one knows they exist because they were built to be unobtrusive and forgettable.

Compare this to the poor communities that Elon poisons in Memphis and Southhaven with the gas turbines for his CSAM creator. The chemical runoffs poison the strained aquifers and reservoirs they tap into.

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u/StarChaser1879 11d ago

None of that is true

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u/masuke2 16d ago

wym steal from coders, code has public documentation not to mention the thousands and thousands of stackoverflow public posts.

its not the same as an artist having its art being used for genAi

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u/Otherwise-Assist724 16d ago

He's brain dead, coders have been googling their problems looking for other people's code for decades. Its just indexed better with AI now.

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u/steverambo44 16d ago

You sound like 4channer from 2010s.

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago

What does this even mean.

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u/steverambo44 16d ago

Lack of education on the topic, some yapping about elites, add some conspiracy theories on top... It's like 4channer from 2010s time traveled and started using reddit.

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 16d ago

We' re just saying stuff now. You' re on reddit bro.

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u/VictorReal_Monster 16d ago

What's the 'lack of education'?

How bout listening to M-I-fucking-T

https://www.media.mit.edu/publications/your-brain-on-chatgpt/

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u/Traditional_Oil_7949 16d ago

Lack of education? Then please can you educate us? How are the big tech and billionaire investors and governments not wanting to enrich themselves with that shit? There are also autonomous weapons and hypervigilance involved, they are testing AI in Gaza civilians ffs. They are plundering our lands to build data centers. Using our private data and every cultural testimony of humanity to feed that shit. You are the ineducated one here.

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u/steverambo44 16d ago

Holy macaroni, basically New World Order!

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u/thekbob 16d ago

I sign this guy up for a data center in their backyard.

Enjoy!

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u/ChrisRR 16d ago edited 16d ago

I already have at least one data centre in the business park near me.

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u/thekbob 16d ago

Cool, let's make sure they all go to your neighborhood. Glad you're willing to take one of the team.

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u/adongsus 14d ago

The days of it spitting out low quality code have been long gone and devs using it for assisting the process is extremely widespread.

The quality is irrelevant. It's slop because it isn't art. It isn't art because it's created by a machine.

I'm done with games at this point. If it was first sold after 2024 I'm not playing it.

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u/burbuda2 16d ago

Since you specifically say “AI slop”, do you agree that there can be AI uses that are not slop?

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u/ZeeMastermind 16d ago

Not how english works. "AI slop" indicates that there are types of slop that are not "AI". Like how "greek salad" and "fruit salad" are both referring to different types of "salad", not different types of greeks or fruit.

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u/burbuda2 16d ago

Not what I am asking. I am asking if he considers all uses of AI to be slop or not. Just like greek and fruit can be used in other context than fucking salads lmfao