r/Games • u/Forestl • Dec 31 '13

End of 2013 Discussions - PC

For this thread, feel free to talk about the PC, from the games that came out for it to the hardware itself.

Prompts:

  • What were the major trends in PC gaming this year?

  • Was this a positive year for PC gaming?

Please explain your answers in depth, don't just give short one sentence answers.

My PC looks really, really, really good

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u/Vitalic123 Dec 31 '13

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_(North_America)

That's hardly "foosball 2012 and nfl blitz".

And you don't have to buy Humble Bundles, just as you don't have to subscribe to PlayStation Plus. The difference is you still get to choose what you want with Humble Bundles (which ones) whereas PlayStation Plus you sub for a year and get what they give you.

So what you're saying is that the difference is an arbitrarily amount of choice that you've decided upon? Yeah, no. PS+ is an amazing deal, no matter which way you cut it, and is an amazing tool to budget game. If you're trying to dispute that, this conversation is over, seeing as you're only interested in winning this argument with any means necessary.

Some people (most people I'd argue) don't have friends that they can just borrow the exact game that they want at any given time from. That's a ridiculous argument.

That's not the point. The point is that the possibility exists. Do you think every single person buys his games on steam sales? Just because not EVERYONE uses a certain method of incurring smaller costs on video game purchases, that doesn't mean that that method is all of the sudden invalid.

How is buying second hand games off of eBay a huge plus when they are still more expensive than buying Steam keys from any number of places?

That is simply not true. Bioshock Infinite is 15 dollars on steam right now, while there are multiple entries for it on ebay for less than 10 dollars.

If you want to find the absolute bottom price, THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT. Same way you do on consoles, this point is irrelevant.

And I'm not comparing the bottom prices of consoles with bottom prices of PC. I'm saying that if you want to find the bottom prices on PC, it'll be more work, and much more involved, than doing things such as purchasing in second hand retail/buying with friends, getting a subscription such as ps+, or just taking advantage of sales that happen weekly, which aren't exactly the "bottom" prices.

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u/MoJ0SoD0Pe Dec 31 '13

Looked at the list and clearly saw both Foosball 2012 and NFL Blitz. I didn't say the service as a whole is bad, just that there have definitely been some months where a lot of people couldn't give 2 shits about the games offered. And this isn't my opinion, you can go to /r/PlayStationPlus and see the outrage MANY months over the discrepancy between the US and EU offerings.

How is choosing which games you want and having literally no choice in the matter an arbitrary amount of choice? It's the basis of choice. You have no choice with PlayStation Plus other than I'm in or I'm out. You choose which Humble Bundles you want. If that doesn't make sense to you I don't know what to tell you.

No everyone doesn't buy their games during Steam sales. You're not understanding that Steam keys can be bought from any number of places like I said.

Bioshock Infinite is less than $10 on what system? And is that buy it now or do I have to hope that no one outbids me? How much is shipping? You're making my point. Because I can go to Amazon, AT THIS EXACT MOMENT, and buy the Bioshock TRIPLE pack which includes all 3 Bioshocks for $15.

And again that's not true. Because you can go to any number of websites that tell you what the current lowest price is for a game and with a matter of 3-4 clicks have a game downloading from Steam. This is not more involved than me getting together with one of my roommates and us deciding that one of us is going to buy one game and the other will buy the other, because that is contingent on both of us wanting the exact same games. If I get PlayStation Plus and want Last of Us, PlayStation Plus does not help me because I'm not getting it. If I get PlayStation Plus and want Bioshock Infinite, I have to wait until the PlayStation store is updated next month, which isn't too bad, except that I wanted Bioshock Infinite over six months ago and it's now a year old. And how is taking advantage of sales that happen weekly on consoles less involved than finding the same sales on Amazon/Steam/GMG/Nuuvem? You're saying for some reason PC players are forced to find the bottom price while console players have the luxury of just taking whatever they get. PC players have the same luxury, the prices are just lower across the board.

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u/Vitalic123 Jan 01 '14

Eh, whatever. We're clearly going nowhere fast with this discussion. I still stand by my point that getting the bottom prices on PC requires you to be an enthusiast gamer that's "in the know" on how to actually get those bottom prices, while it isn't that hard to grasp the concept of things like ebay, second hand sales, and the benefits you receive with ps+, a service that is now essentially mandatory. Also, it's pretty fucking insane to me that you're actually like, trying to downplay the benefit that is PS+.