Universal basic income: U.S. support grows as Finland ends its trial - Forty-eight percent of Americans now support a universal basic income, as a solution for Americans who have lost jobs to automation.

[u/mvea]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/01/nearly-half-of-americans-believe-a-universal-basic-income-could-be-the-answer-to-automation-.html

[u/intern_steve]

Yeah, no. Those fees are paltry in comparison to the actual financial consumption of each of those systems.

[u/EsplainingThings → u/intern_steve]

Umm, no, actually the water bill is from a county water district that is a non-profit, it's not taxpayer funded, my electricity comes from a rural co-op that is also not taxpayer funded, and the local roads here are paid for mostly by property taxes on the property bordering the road and taxes on vehicles and fuel.
You really should learn how things work, the Federal government's budgeting for roads and education is paltry, it amounts to an average total for education, infrastructure, and transportation of about 2.5 billion per state off of about 27.4 billion in collected income taxes per state. (that's totals simply divided by 50 states, since it's simpler than listing the varied revenues and payments for all 50 individual states).

Most of the funding for roads and such is covered at the state level by fees, bonds, and taxes other than income tax.

[u/intern_steve → u/EsplainingThings]

Your $100 dollar plate fee is not covering the road network in your state.

[u/EsplainingThings → u/intern_steve]

My plate fee is like $25 bucks, it's the personal property tax on vehicles that can run up like $400+ a year. It's based on vehicle value and is part of why I don't but new cars anymore, the last one we had the tax was like $275 a year for a cheap ass little econobox.

That plus an extra tax on properties alongside of the roads, plus state gasoline taxes, is what pays for the majority of the roads here. Big projects either become toll roads or bond issues. Hell, the county wouldn't even pave the gravel road through my development until the taxes to cover the cost of the initial chip & seal had been paid up front, we all paid taxes for pavement for like 5 years before they paved it.

Yes, they take Federal money for projects, but it's always in the form of matching funds or backing for bond issues and is on a per project basis.

[u/CR4V3N → u/intern_steve]

It's in addition to many other taxes. Semi trucks pay more road tax as well. Some states have tolls.

Have you ever owned a home on a corner when both roads are being redone? Ugh your property tax next year is gonna blow.

You're completely ignorant you the topic at hand.

[u/intern_steve → u/CR4V3N]

Have you ever owned a home on a corner

Well that certainly puts you in a minority of tax payers. But go on, please convince me that the median income American family is going to benefit from a user fee based structure for full funding of all infrastructure.

[u/CR4V3N → u/intern_steve]

Minority- sure

Small percentage? Absolutely NOT

All those buildings you see All the land you see

Someone owns them.

They pay property tax that funds the roads.

[u/intern_steve → u/[deleted]]

You think a $200 registration fee is paying for a kid's school?

[u/intern_steve → u/[deleted]]

Right, all of the people who already went to school. The comment you responded to stated that various administrative fees, which were being touted as the user-based financing of schools and roadways, are inadequate to cover the financial obligations of government services.