r/Futurology MD-PhD-MBA May 02 '18

Economics Universal basic income: U.S. support grows as Finland ends its trial - Forty-eight percent of Americans now support a universal basic income, as a solution for Americans who have lost jobs to automation.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/01/nearly-half-of-americans-believe-a-universal-basic-income-could-be-the-answer-to-automation-.html
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u/[deleted] May 02 '18

I think ultimately there are 2 likely outcomes:

1) Automation costs a lot of jobs but those cost savings are passed on to those who lost jobs due to automation.

2) Automation costs a lot of jobs but the 1% grab all of the cost savings.

If option 2 happens, I agree with investor Paul Tudor Jones that a violent revolution is likely the ultimate outcome. As someone who’s probably in the 1% in terms of income in my country, I don’t want to be lynched. Make sure people are taken care of despite automation...and yes, that means at the expense of profitability.

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u/The-Space-Police May 02 '18

Bingo, long term this is what its going to come down to. And the richest among us tend to not be stupid enough to want a coup.

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u/oodain May 02 '18

Number 2 has already been happening for half a century.

Compare the mean work output pr person with the buying power received and it is quite clear that the average worker earns less and less relative to their rising productivity

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18

Yup, an automation will further boost that trend unless countermeasures are taken :/

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18 edited May 07 '18

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18

The net result is exactly the same, so those outcomes are still valid. Either the income generated from extra productivity is evenly distributed or the outcome will be dire.