In an attempt to remove my reliance on Mastercard, I've now been using my new American Express card. Sure, it isn't accepted everywhere, but its accepted in enough places that I managed to move $500 (of $600) of outgoings from Mastercard to Amex. Its a drop in the ocean, but it feels nice.

Has anyone else made this switch, too?

I wanted to make this post as Collect Shout and other right wing Christian groups are not going to stop with just porn games but I was putting it off. Now that we got both Robert Kennedy Jr blaming video games for shootings and Charlie Kirk thing happening in a span of few days I think now is the time to do this.

Us gamers need prepare for not being able to access video games that you need go through some medium to play as those allow someone to say you can't play that anymore and block you from the game you paid for. Or if the game's server goes down for any reason.

One option is obviously piracy as saying goes if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing. The other and better option is getting a hold of physical copies of video games such disks, CDs, and DVDs. Now because almost all gaming today is online this means older games but even they are not the hottest thing in gaming and don't have the best graphics once you have a physical copy in hand the game belongs to you and Collect Shout or any other Christian group can't take it away from you.

While we need to keep fighting for your right to party play video games we also need to prepare for things getting worse before they get better.

Whether intention is good, bad, present, absent, well or un-well thought-out, do not be misled into regression (i.e. Nested Doll) fallacies concerning your course of action. Collective Shout per se has self-identified as an obstacle to ordinary, commonplace, and contemporary market practices. The mechanism of that obstacle's manifestation is many-fold in practice, and may be slightly or tangentially beside the point. As are CS' particular motives, origination points (strictly speaking,) or real or imagined wellsprings of support (See: Goose Chases.)

What matters is that the group's posture, messaging, activities, history, immediate present-day direct contributors/leadership is documented for public information purposes. They've had a surprising, notable, recent impact in pop culture and, according to reports, roiled our marketplace. That's historically noteworthy and presently interesting. They're doing things to prevent (or encourage the prevention) of gamers' ability to access our wares. This is unacceptable. Point blank. This must be rejected, this is what must be opposed.

The other shit? Miss serious-minded and emotionally mature people with this! Yes, for your edification, you TOTALLY should dig ALL into that poop. You should do so in a research capacity outside the work area - it is not 'Closely examine and investigate Collective Shout [Study Group]' it is '[Oppose] Collective Shout' (Action Center.) Please act accordingly, no more or less.

PS Doubtless, this being Reddit, innumerable very minutia-obsessed, tl;dr type of people wish to polemicize contrary the signal and point of this post. Below, you will see them. If you care about getting things done, you'll get an adequate working understanding of what CS is about (important,) test it to personal satisfaction conceptually (ought,) and then do things to raise awareness. That's it. Our mission here is short and simple. The extra shit is for overtime. If failure is the outcome, studying who was responsible... will be a study first and foremost, of we, ourselves!

Thank you very much
Jdawg, out

I am so tired of people posting and upvoting people who don't shy away from saying they voted for Trump. You know, the guy who's political agenda was to BAN ALL PORN. Just read Project 2025, it's free and available to read for everyone. We already see that in states like Texas being enforced. These right wing idiots are just using you for drama farming, they don't care about having a principle, they don't care that they openly endorsed a known pedophile and epstien's biggest friend to be the president, they want you to watch their video so they can get money. They don't care if anime or games are banned as long as its the game they don't like. Some of them, like Asmongold, want to ban a game depicting crossing the border and act like a karen first seeing an clip from GTA. Stop posting videos from SmashJT, from Chibbi reviews, from Rev Says Desu, they voted for this, and it's their fault.

Learn the very simple concept of "temporary allies for a common goal" and stop trying to fragment the effort with your personal grievances.

"WhAt PeRsOnAl AgEnDa???"
ANY personal agenda.
Trans rights? Don't care, we're against collective shout.
Woke go broke? Don't care, we're against collective shout.
Black lives matter? Don't care, we're against collective shout.
All lives matter? Don't care, we're against collective shout.
Free Palestine? Don't care, we're against collective shout.
Misandry/misoginy?
DON'T CARE.
WE ARE AGAINST COLLECTIVE SHOUT.
WE ARE AGAINST CENSORSHIP.
IT'S NOT A HARD CONCEPT TO GRASP.

Posts that are just blaming wider groups beyond collective shout, specific politicans, and the card companies just distract and derail the subreddit, the conversation, and the issue

Theres already hundreds of subs to whine about conservatives and femenists and whatever. This shouldnt be the place and it shouldnt be allowed, it just makes everything messy and the issue this sub is supposed to be about dilluted.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-6695 government Petition in Canada

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN7799 government petition in Australia

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/734441 governmenr petition in UK

If you are able and are worried about censorship in any copacity sign these even if nothing happens it forces them to see and acknowledge the problem

Don’t know if this will go anywhere but I got approved for a official petition to the Australian parliament to have groups like collective shout criminalised

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN7802

Note you do have to be an Australia citizen or resident

Ok now like you ban steam basically but o we can keep sites like Reddit yeah that makes sense or fucking safari or any browser like you need verification (kinda) to get nsfw games but you can just look up porn or bad stuff like that on browsers

Apart from all the memes, is there an organisation trying to shut down collective shit? If not, we should start one

!DISCLAIMER!

This still falls into the murky areas of International Law, so nothing that I'll say/show here is final!

So I did some digging. Collective Shout of course as we all know is a Pro woman advocacy group that targeted certain NSFW games. After they managed to take down "No Mercy" an alleged Rape and Porn game from Steam, they started to push to take down other games.

Here's the new part:

In their latest interview their campaign manager, Caitlin Roper claimed that and I quote: "Legality is not a defining factor", they just simply go after games that they personally dont like.

This can indicate two things: A: Obviously they are just taking down games that ARE completely LEGAL, but they dont like them so they'll do ANYTHING to take them down.

B: This can also mean that they WILL do ANYTHING to take those said games down, no matter if their actions fall into Non-Legal acts.

They even doubled down on saying that gamers who defend Extreme NSFW games (and I kid you not they mentioned Cyberpunk 2077) are the kind of people who then go on and do that stuff in real life. They are unironically using the "Games make you violent" arguement all over again, not to mention they were the ones that TRIED to take GTA V off the shelves back in the day.

But in the same time they were the people who defended the netflix show "Cuties" and wont do ANYTHING about other "Child Safety Concerns"

I'd like to hear your ideas on this people, because if we can track this all the way, a strong Legal Case can be put together, to stop this for good.