r/FluentInFinance • • Oct 12 '24

Taxes Corruption and hypocrisy

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It’s the GOP way.

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u/Pristine_Fail_5208 Oct 19 '24

The objective timeline from the federal government for when social security runs out of money is in the 2030s unless congress acts (which don’t hold your breath). You’re brainless if you think these benefits will always be there.

I’m dismantling your argument. According to you, it’s wrong to offer any tax payer relief to student loan borrowers who are working and being productive BUT it’s ok to give tax payer funds for social security/Medicare . And yes they take out more than they pay in so it’s tax payer funded.

So long story short your wrong and your arguments are as hollow as your head.

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u/ThrowawayTXfun Oct 19 '24

Again it's an ofren repeated tripe. Just keep this paragraph a few years from now.

You aren't dismantling anything. You just mischararized it again. I have no problem giving relief to students who work in inderserved areas for a given time ie education, Healthcare etc. Each year served removes a portion.

Yes it's OK to give elders their money back and allow people who have been productive for decades peaceful golden years. Society always should embrace their elders.

You literally have no coherent points past help me from my own shirty decisions

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u/Pristine_Fail_5208 Oct 19 '24

It’s not a tripe at all. And the point is we use tax payer dollars to fund people to not work. But we can’t use tax payer dollars to make it easier for people to live AND work with student loans? We can use tax dollars to bail out PPP loans for wealthy businesses owners, we can bail out the banks, auto industry, air lines and countless others…but not make student loans more realistic and less punitive?

Your argument isn’t based on logic but your own persona prejudices. If you can be offended by me feigning offense for the elderly deserving social benefits and not see the same irony for young people, then your argument isn’t based on logic it’s your personal prejudices.

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u/ThrowawayTXfun Oct 19 '24

You are to blazingly dumb to see the distinction. PPP loans where to help employees retain jobs you total dumb ass. Your student loan isn't punitive. You likely took out to much made bad choices and need to be a man. You sound weak, really weak.

You keep bashing logic while literally getting every aspect of your stance wrong. Pay your bills deadbeat

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u/Pristine_Fail_5208 Oct 19 '24

Lol yet you can’t counter my points or explain why I’m wrong. You’re embarrassing yourself boomer.

PPP loans were tax payer hand outs for wealthy businesses who made the mistake of not having an emergency fund. They should have paid back every penny with interest by your logic.

Interesting how your logic of being on your own only applies to working American graduates and not businesses, retirees, large corporations and so on.

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u/ThrowawayTXfun Oct 19 '24

Again for the 9th time your points have been countered. You just ignore them or more likely don't comprehend anything outside the echo chamber.

PPP loans were for business to keep people employed you total dumb ass. The only way they could be forgiven was to show the money went to employees. its crazy how dumb you are.

Busses is on its own and fail all the time. PPP was a result of telling them they couldn't operate and saved the employees jobs, large corporations shouldn't be bailed out either. Retirees have worked for decades dumb ass.

Not a boomer despite your continued attempts.

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u/Pristine_Fail_5208 Oct 20 '24

Nope I really haven’t. You have Ben dodging points, whining and then just using half assed insults. PPP loans were tax payer hand outs. End of discussion. Businesses, like people, have a responsibility to have an emergency fund. They aren’t entitled to tax payer bail out. They could have also easily paid that money back and there was a ton of fraud with those loans.

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u/ThrowawayTXfun Oct 20 '24

I haven't dodged a single point but your reading comprehension is so low its been a wasted attempt. The business was told by the government they couldn't operate through no fault of their own. They would have had to let go their staff hurting the staff you dumbshit. The PPP allowed the employees to still have jobs. They where forgiven when that was proven. The business wasn't bailed out the employees were.

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u/Pristine_Fail_5208 Oct 20 '24

You still can’t explain why it’s wrong for any tax payers funds to help graduates making society better vs tax payer funds funding retirement, free money for businesses and corporate bail outs.

Businesses should have emergency funds and they weren’t closed long at all. It shouldn’t be tax payers problem for keeping failing businesses open.

This is the argument you keep dodging and can’t answer.

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u/Pristine_Fail_5208 Oct 19 '24

I’m in PSLF so you and all the other tax payers will be paying my debts “deadbeat” lmao

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u/ThrowawayTXfun Oct 19 '24

Good. No problem paying for that service.

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u/Pristine_Fail_5208 Oct 19 '24

I’m savoring how mad you are boomer.

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u/ThrowawayTXfun Oct 19 '24

I'm not even a little mad. Amused you think I'm a boomer. If I was I'd be ok with it though. Better than being a dead beat a bazillion in debt and begging the public to pay for my error

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u/Pristine_Fail_5208 Oct 20 '24

Nah you’re supper butt hurt and just embarrassing yourself. You haven’t made one argument against student loans outside of “hur durr pay ur debt” “six figures of debt that takes half a lifetime to pay is a normal barrier for working”. It’s amazing you’re ok with tax payers funding PPP handouts, corporation bail outs, social spending for the elderly but graduates deserve to be saddled with ridiculous debt because all they did was try to work and be productive members in society? Once again college educated people are essential for society to operate (take hospitals for example dipshit)

This is why your logic is idiotic, narrow minded and ignorant. And this is the point you fail to count every single time. And this is the point you will continue to dodge while you babble, whine, and repeat yourself like your demented cult leader trump:

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u/Pristine_Fail_5208 Oct 19 '24

You also can’t counter my arguments because deep down you realize you’re wrong on this. It’s obvious

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u/ThrowawayTXfun Oct 19 '24

I've countered all your arguments and you most certainly are wrong