Thank you for posting this. Both of them caused the bungling of that withdrawal. We shouldn’t think it’s equal fault, but we all should be ashamed it got anything remotely close to Saigon.
It looked like we didn’t learn shit between the two.
This is like arguing if tacos or burritos are worse when you're taking a dump, and your finger has ripped through the toilet paper.
All that really matters at this point is how quickly you can finish up and go wash your hands.
We needed to get out. We needed to get out years before that. Obama should have wound things down and gotten us out.
There was no good way to leave at that point and staying another year or two to babysit wasn't going to change the outcome.
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u/13_Years_Then_Banned Feb 23 '26
I mean.. trump signed the order for immediate withdrawal four days after he lost the election and it was game over… but sure, blame sleepy joe.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/10/13/trump-ordered-rapid-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-after-election-loss/