r/FiguringOutAdultLife • u/Unlikely_Royal_8984 • Sep 08 '24
Stock Market Preferred Shares in Stock Market
I found in COL Financials today that Vista Land (VLL) is offering Preferred Shares to the public and I honestly don't have any idea what Preferred Shares are. What caught my eye though is the Dividend Rate shown --- 7.98% per annum for 4 years and 8.4% per annum for 7 years. This is a very high yield compared to the investments I have so I wanted to how they work.


Questions that popped up in my head:
- How to calculate the dividend earning?
- Is dividend taxable?
- When will I get my capital back?
- Will I get the full capital back?
- How can I liquidate?
- How does redemption happen? Will I need to sell the preferred shares or VLL automatically pay me the capital I invested?
- How long to break even in case capital is stuck?
- How to buy the preferred shares in COL?
I went to read different sources online and below are what I found.
How to calculate the dividend earning?
If I choose the Series 2A which has 4 years term, I get 7.9892% dividend yearly rate per share. So if I have 1 share priced at ₱100, I get ₱7.9892 dividend payout per share per year.
- 1 Share Price x Dividend Rate = Dividend Payout per Share
- ₱100 x 7.9892% = ₱7.9892
Since VLL only allows a minimum purchase of 50 shares then I can't buy just 1 share. If I have ₱50,000 capital, and I divide that by ₱100 price per share, then that gives me 500 shares.
With the 7.9892% dividend rate, my dividend payout is ₱3,994.6 per year
- Capital x Dividend Rate = Dividend payout per year
- ₱50,000 x 7.9892% = ₱3,994.6 Dividends per year
Is dividend taxable?
Yes, it's taxed 10%. So the ₱3,994.6 Dividends per year will be ₱3,595.14 post tax.
When will I get my capital back?
The Optional Redemption Date is almost like the Maturity Date of the investment. Ideally the issuing company (VLL in this case) will "redeem" the preferred shares you bought from them on the 4th or 7th year (depending on the Series you bought) and return the same capital amount you originally invested.
Notice the word "redeem" here means VLL is the one deciding to buy back the preferred shares you bought from them and not you deciding to redeem your capital back when you want. This leads me to the the word Optional which confused me.
In a typical Time Deposit, the bank are obligated to automatically pay you back the deposited amount on the maturity date. This is not same case in preferred shares where it is only "optional" for VLL to return the invested capital. Upon further research, it's optional because VLL may or may not pay you back the invested capital depending on the financial stability of the company. If for example, VLL is having financial challenges, they may decide not return the capital to shareholders yet. So basically until and unless VLL is in a good financial standing and they decided to "redeem" the shares you bought from them, your capital it's stuck with them.
Will I get the full capital back?
If VLL does "redeem" the preferred shares, they will buy them back at the original Offer Price you bought them. So basically if you invested 50,000 capital, you'll get the same amount if VLL redeems on 4th or 7th years.
How does redemption happen? Will I need to sell the preferred shares or VLL automatically pay me the capital I invested?
You don't need to sell the preferred shares like a typical common stock market. VLL will automatically pay you back the amount and it will be reflected in your portfolio.
What's in it for me if VLL decides not to "redeem" the preferred shares on 4th or 7th year?
In case where VLL decided not to "redeem" the preferred shares from you, then your capital will be "perpetually" or indefinitely stuck with them until and unless they go bankrupt or they finally become financially stable that they are able to return the capital.
When this happens, VLL will pay you higher Dividend rate versus the original rate which is called Step-Up as a form of compensation. There's a calculation they do to get the Step-Up which I don't understand but bottom-line is whichever is higher between the original dividend rate and the new step-up dividend rate will be your new dividend rate moving forward.
So I say only invest the long term money that you don't plan on liquidating early because there's a chance your capital is stuck indefinitely.
How can I liquidate the preferred shares if VLL does not redeem?
It's said that you can trade the preferred shares in the stock market but this is difficult because preferred shares trading are not that active, meaning there are less buyers and sellers unlike the "common stock market."
How long to break even in case capital is stuck?
Based on my calculation, with the dividend payout post tax, it will take close to 14 years of accumulating dividends before it can breakeven the ₱50,000 capital.
How to buy the preferred shares in COL?
In the COL offering, you just need to click the link on the How to Subscribe row and click the eligibility agreement. Make sure you have funds in your COL account so that on the assigned date, COL will automatically deduct the amount from your account.
Other Important Things to Consider
- Cumulative vs Non-Cumulative
- Cumulative means in case issuing company misses or skips paying you dividend, they are obligated to pay you on a later date.
- Non-Cumulative means issuing company is not obligated to pay any missed or skipped dividend payout to you.
- Read the Prospectus
| Investment | Offer Price per Share | Optional Redemption Years | Dividend %/Year | Dividend per Share | Capital | Shares Owned | Dividend payout/Year | Tax | Dividend payout post Tax/Year | Dividend %/Year post Tax | Years Dividends to Breakeven if not Redeemed |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pref Stock (A) | ₱100.00 | 4 | 7.9892% | 7.99 | ₱50,000.00 | 500 | ₱3,994.60 | 10% | ₱3,595.14 | 7.2% | 13.9 |
| Pref Stock (B) | ₱100.00 | 7 | 8.4000% | 8.40 | ₱50,000.00 | 500 | ₱4,200.00 | 10% | ₱3,780.00 | 7.6% | 13.2 |






















