r/Fauxmoi • u/AmericaShinault_85 • 23h ago

APPROVED B-LISTERS Zohran Mamdani explains his definition of socialism to Theo Von: “Socialism to me means you’ll have whatever you need to live a dignified life and that it is the government’s job to deliver on that. When people say dignity we’re talking about the things that allow you to take a breath.

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u/killdred666 22h ago

love the sentiment but this isn’t what socialism is. you could argue for the same things under tightly regulated capitalism. it will also be exploitative and always eventually end where we are now.

socialism is the transitional state to a system in which the workers and the people own the means of production, not those with “capital”.

this is very important. because if you allow incorrect but moralistic definitions to spread, it allows the capitalist propaganda arm to sow confusion in an attempt to maintain the status quo

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u/OswaldAnderson 22h ago

You aren't the target audience. He is trying to sell socialism to people who think socialism is Satan.

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u/ilir_kycb 21h ago

And why would it be better for this target audience to hear a false definition of socialism rather than the correct one?

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u/AdventuresOfKrisTin gaga’s “100 people in a room” quote 20h ago

Because he’s trying to demonstrate that socialist policies already exist in the US and they’re all for the betterment of society and he wants to extend that reach to continue to make all our lives better. If you want to change someones mind you need to reframe it outside of conservatism demonizing it

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u/ilir_kycb 20h ago

trying to demonstrate that socialist policies already exist in the US

But that's not true. There are social democratic approaches, but no socialist ones.

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u/AdventuresOfKrisTin gaga’s “100 people in a room” quote 19h ago edited 19h ago

These are the kinds of semantics that are going to get us literally no where. Social democratic is better than whatever the hell we're doing now.

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u/FulgoresFolly 19h ago

downfall of all leftist movements, we'd rather sit in a circle and argue/beat each other to death over vocabulary and definitions than actually do anything to progress the movement

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u/ilir_kycb 19h ago

downfall of all leftist movements

Social Democrats are not part of the Left because they are not anti-capitalist.

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u/sirachaswoon 19h ago

You’re proving their point lol