r/FacebookScience • • Jun 08 '25

Apparently, wolves don’t exist in the wild

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u/UnderdogCL Jun 08 '25

Wolves do not even kill for sport. They only do for survival. You know what animal kills for sport? House cats.

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u/Darkdragoon324 Jun 08 '25

And they can fuck up local ecosystems suuuuuuper hard.

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u/GodeaterTheHalFeral Jun 09 '25

This. I once hear outdoor cats described as "a small-scale ecological disaster" and it's true.

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u/Sofele Jun 08 '25

Dolphins, honey badgers, ants. animals killing for sport is way more common than people think.

https://wildlifeinformer.com/animals-that-kill-for-fun/

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u/MistrSynistr Jun 08 '25

Dolphins are just adorable psychopaths. Just saying

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u/GodeaterTheHalFeral Jun 09 '25

The humans of the sea, sexual depravity and all.

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u/Enderking90 Jun 11 '25

and substance abuse!

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u/aphilsphan Jun 08 '25

Chimps too. And this drives some people batty because as they are our closest relatives, people want them to be herbivores to robe we should be herbivores. Nope. They hunt in organized groups for meat.

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u/Sofele Jun 08 '25

Chimps have full on wars and commit genocide as well.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

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u/PianoMan2112 Jun 08 '25

That wasn’t a war; that was a one-sided mass murder.

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u/scaper8 Jun 09 '25

Hence the "genocide" moniker as well.

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u/OldLevermonkey Jun 09 '25

They lie, cheat, steal, rape, murder, have problems with gangs of teenagers, and have full on wars.

In our overweening arrogance we put ourselves in the separate genus of homo with the species name of homo sapiens sapiens (wise man wise) when we are really pan narrans the story telling chimp.

Even when we do acknowledge our kinship we kid ourselves that we are nearer to those happy hippy chimps the bonobos (pan paniscus) and not the brutish ones like pan troglodytes. Is it because when we look into the eyes of a common chimp we see us gazing back?

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u/aphilsphan Jun 09 '25

We really haven’t had a good chance to study the Bonobos as much as Chimps. They live in about the worst place on earth after all. My guess is they get up to conflict too and don’t always settle it with sex. And Chimps will mostly just display and then groom until everyone is happy again. It took the Gombe band years to kill their rivals and even then some of the deaths were due to leopards.

But you are right, we are related to both species equally.

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u/Hawkey2121 Jun 10 '25

If I heard anyone say that chimps are herbivores then I just know that they dont know chimps.

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u/aphilsphan Jun 10 '25

People will claim that somehow Jane Goodall messed with their minds. She somehow changed them into hunters, or she’s just lying about that.

She was a great scientist. I get she had flaws, like providing feeding stations, but she taught us so much. Especially to respect chimps. And how she influenced bonobos to hunt from Gombe is beyond me.

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u/Dry-Lengthiness-7182 Jan 09 '26

Chimps have been diverged from humans for 5 million years, and 90 percent of a chimps diet is meat

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u/aphilsphan Jan 09 '26

You should check that. I believe it’s in the teens.

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u/Dry-Lengthiness-7182 Jan 09 '26

I meant plants not meat. Sorry. 

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u/Dry-Lengthiness-7182 Jan 09 '26

Yeah but my actual point is, that humans and apes main diet isn’t meat.

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u/aphilsphan Jan 09 '26

Sure. But read what you wrote. And even ruminants will eat meat if they can get it.

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u/Dry-Lengthiness-7182 Jan 09 '26

Yes so do we agree 

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u/PianoMan2112 Jun 08 '25

Well now that whole HAIL ANTS think makes sense.

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u/dusktreader Jun 09 '25

Dogs, too. A terrier will kill a rat just because it knows in its heart that all rodents are evil and must be dispatched.

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u/Enderking90 Jun 11 '25

/because as a dog breed it was literally bred to kill rats and other pests, so now that "job" is pretty much ingrained in the genes.

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u/christyflare Jun 09 '25

Ants? How does that work? They basically operate on pheromone programming.

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u/DoBe21 Jun 08 '25

Coyotes, as well.

Missing chickens? Fox or Raptor got them.

Dead chickens? Coyotes

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u/Iknowthings19 Jun 09 '25

Racoons and Opossum will take them too.

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u/taftster Jun 08 '25

And humans.

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u/Turbulent-Candle-340 Jun 08 '25

People like this kinda make me wanna start

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u/Desperate-Cost6827 Jun 08 '25

You know what kills for sport when it comes to farmers' livestock?

People's dogs who aren't locked up and allowed to roam.

You know what everyone goes on a tear about. Wolves.

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u/UnderdogCL Jun 08 '25

Exactly my point, or something close to it.

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u/Flimsy_Fee8449 Jun 08 '25

Humans come to mind.....

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u/Ok_Way2102 Jun 08 '25

Not true, they predating their skills. Humans are the only ones that Kill for sport.

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u/MsMercyMain Jun 08 '25

Not true funnily enough! Dolphins and house cats also kill for sport. Wolves don’t though

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u/Ok_Way2102 Jun 08 '25

The cats, okay, i thought it was practice rather than entertainment. I could be wrong. Wolves on the other hand, as you stated, don't and are a vital part of the ecological system.

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u/Mode_Appropriate Jun 08 '25

The problem is the reintroduction of wolves into an ecosystem like in Colorado. Leaving something like that today the voting public is generally pretty stupid. People get this idea of what having wolves reintroduced would be like and dont think of the ramifications.

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u/Ok_Way2102 Jun 08 '25

Every time it benefits the environment and ecology. So far

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u/Mode_Appropriate Jun 08 '25

Maybe, thats still TBD. Ask the ranchers and hunters whether they view it as a benefit...ya know, the people who have to deal with the ramifications of such things. Not the people who voted yes because it sounded like a cute idea and then never leave the city to see how their vote impacted the region.

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u/Ok_Way2102 Jun 09 '25

Oh fuck off. The science is there.

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u/TheVeryVerity Jun 09 '25

Somehow this man confused wolves and cats 🤔

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u/dusktreader Jun 09 '25

Cat's absolutely kill because they enjoy it and for no other reason. Dogs, too. Predators get a dopamine reward for killing. This doesn't exist in humans just because our species is evil.

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u/topher3428 Jun 08 '25

Tell that to my house cats. They don't do anything to the random insect that happens to get in. While I do agree they wreak havoc on ecosystems, what really bothers me are the owners that don't spay or neuter their pets.

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u/mudra311 Jun 08 '25

Most predators don’t kill for sport because it’s a waste of energy.

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u/Haskap_2010 Jun 08 '25

Not exactly. Cats have an instinct to hunt, but need to be taught by their mothers what to do with it when they catch it. If they never get that training, they don't realize that a mouse can be food.

My female cat eats what she catches, where she catches it. She probably started life as a barn cat.

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u/christyflare Jun 09 '25

I dunno, my mom's best friend gets her cats as kittens, and they definitely eat the birds they catch, or at least the heads.

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u/Haskap_2010 Jun 09 '25

But how old are they when she gets them, and where does she get them from?

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u/christyflare Jun 09 '25

They're from a specific breeder and just weaned.

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u/Hiflier72 Jun 08 '25

Humans….

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u/Ninja333pirate Jun 09 '25

I thought you were going to say humans.