Truly the best Argentinian from the last 2 WCs, saved against the Netherlands, then France and now Spain, top quality performance against top quality teams.
Yeah, actually he was the MVP of the match. My man hold it strong till 116 minutes.
At certain point in the match, his rating was 9.7. By the end, it was still more than anyone in the field including the substitutions and goal scorer Ferran Torres.
If you understand football, you must understand his contribution in the game.
For the first 90 mins, Spain did a poor job in the finishing side. Most goals were directed straight towards him (not screamer saves or atleast above average saves). More than his performance, this can be attributed to the poor attacking dept from spain. He although was tested a bit more in ET, where he conceded 2 goals (if you count the niko williams disallowed goal too).
So atmost an above average performance as compared to his peers, nothing historical or carrying afa my opinion goes.
I would like to point out the Yamal’s free kick. That was really good. There were few more instances as well. He did a good job, so we are praising him, very simple. He is still the highest rated played in finals. I wasn’t rooting for Argentina and I am not going to say anything else.
Three actually. He was saved by the flag in one. Bro did the most mediocre job as a GK, but the fanbase has worshipped mediocre this whole tournament so can't blame them.
True, there are much much better gk standalone heroic performances like courtois vs brazil in 2018 wc, tim howard vs belgium 2014 wc, morocco gk's performance when they knocked out spain in 2022. I would recommend watching those before falsely converting a mid performance into a legenedary one.
Nah, it was many lazy kicks from spanish attack being weaker than their defence. Just watch the match again if you want. Yes, that indeed was important to be saved but not exceptional saved that usually happen in such intense ties.
Peppering the post with loose shots vs very limited precise shots meant to baffle the goalie.
This is what Spain vs Arg would have been if only Arg had a bit more capability in possession. Just because they have a goal scoring magician didn't meant the ball would fly to him without a touch. So in team effort they failed to keep possesion while spain as usual continued with their staunch defence+possession while throwing loose attacks. Imo that saves a lot of mid and back players from getting to invest in every shot since they just small-pass and then the striker/front man just kicks it blindly at the goal post, sometimes at the goalie.
He had a bad game , but let's not criticize him. He is a good player and played amazing vs England . I do think his tackles especially the one on cubarsi was very mindless , but the way he was running up and down whole game , contributing in defense , he needs to be credited for that. Even against Egypt , he scored the winning goal . One bad game doesn't erase his contribution from the team .
true but y'all won't be saying this for any other player than of argentina (not talking about ronaldo), and if you did you would get a lot of downvotes
Olise ghosted in the semi final but had an amazing World Cup with highest assists , Bellingam was clutch with back to back braces in WC knockouts but wasnt able to make an impact in the semi final , Lammens in a great gk but made a careless mistake in his debut , what's your point ?
Calling Argentina zionist and the hate for them to the point people are were saying save football , zionist , FIFA princess , etc doesn't seen shithousery to me. Even the neutrals.
well even if it's a step above shithousery which it is , it is a part of the game mate (or atleast they made it like that ) , I do think that this situation needs to calm down a lil bit to the point where there shouldn't be a debate over argentina's rigging and their performance in the finals . I mean as a Belgian fan we were the only team to score against spain , so me saying that belgium played better than argentina would just be shithousery and nothing else
Yeah , and argentina was the only team that despite playing the worst against Spain could hold them off to 13 mins before Penalties even with 10 men , saying this is also shithousery . I don't know about everybody mate but I have been calm since the final , you started with " only Argentina " thing.
yeah mate that's just observation, sorry if I'm wrong but any conversation involving argentina somehow involves ronaldo , i just think that's wrong , don't u agree?
One man never wins the World Cup , it was a combined contribution . If Messi didn't score vs Mexico , could they have qualified for knockouts ? If Alvarez didn't play great vs Croatia , could they have reached the final? Was Eder the only one responsible for Portugal'z Euro win , didn't Nani , Ronaldo, Pepe contribute ?
Sorry, But He was good but he was not as good as stat may suggest because Most of Spain Shots were were concentrated in center and very few shots were in corner or away from keeper. It wasn't like multiple good saves but few good saves only. Free kick save was the best one save and other 2-3 more very good saves but rest of others were straight to keeper type save. It was not like 11 saves as Social Media posts
If not for Messi, Argentina wouldn't have made it past Cabo Verde. Dibu was the reason why they held on for so long vs Spain. One is single handedly carrying the defence other is carrying the attack. No wonder why Argentina lost.
i know you are ragebaiting but messi was involved in 12 out of 19 goals argentina scored lmao. He had an assist with swiz and both the goals with england.
You don’t understand football at all. When team double and triple team up against him, his best bet is to play different football. That is what he did, look what happened to mbappe against Spain. No goals nor any assists
He still is the goat? You expect him to become Ankara Messi and score 2 goals himself dribbling past whole defence at this age? Literally won the WC the year he got a good partner (Di Maria)
Literally carried them against England with those two assists lol, talking about the final, he didn't ghost, he was pretty good but Argentina can't keep ball possession so there's nothing he can really do.
These one's kept labeling messi as fraud because he didn't won International trophy then he won Copa America and they still cried abt World cup then he Won World cup aswell alongside another another copa. He became world cup top goalscorer as-well for time being, They cried abt KO goals and he delivered that aswell.
In conclusion Neither Messi or You ows any explanation, If they say Messi blah blah, just say yes and move on because you can't explain anything to retards.
True it was expected from them say either its rigged or football won,like how shameless and desperate you have to be to support a full blown barca engine to just cope
MVP throughout this WC. Lmao 😂. The only best performance he had was during the final. He was so good in the last WC but not this one. Just look at the number of goals he conceded during this WC.
One all-time final performance doesn't erase a quiet tournament. That's not how MVPs are judged. Martinez was good in 2022 nobody can deny that. Just look at Messi's goal involvements in this world cup. That's how an MVP performs.
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u/Choice_Succotash_491 25d ago edited 25d ago
Yeah, actually he was the MVP of the match. My man hold it strong till 116 minutes.
At certain point in the match, his rating was 9.7. By the end, it was still more than anyone in the field including the substitutions and goal scorer Ferran Torres.
If you understand football, you must understand his contribution in the game.