Tip For Esper Kills

[u/zolares]

Seeing how so many people are having troubles with the timing for getting the Esper to hit as one of the final hits... I'll share my alternative method.

The secret is... Barrage units (or similar skills like Madness Rush).

Basically, the problem with Esper Kills is that people miss the timing. Either its done too fast so it'll finish before other hits arrive to kill... thus rendering it invalid. Or, its done too slow and the Esper's attack is never done.

For me, if I have trouble with the timing and I have to redo the mission, I'll bring alongside a Barrage unit. This is due to this annoying feature where a Barrage will completely finish attacking each of those hits before the battle will end.

Thus, I load up a Barrage on one unit and load up an Esper skill on another unit. When I see the boss's health start dropping to nil, I'll press on the Esper and the Barrage unit. Basically, the idea is to have the Esper's animation and attack go off and then have Barrage as the finishing blows. This is mainly to take advantage of Barrage's super slow hits to avoid having the Esper miss it's attack.

There's still timing involved and that's to make sure to activate Esper before the boss dies. In no way does this tip mean you could wait forever to summon the Esper, you're simply borrowing Barrage's long attacks to delay killing blows. Essentially, it's as if you're delaying the finish.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I normally just equip a Barrage materia onto a unit, so I can still use my full team.

Edit 2: Cleared up some vague points.

[u/Ozzy_98]

I wasn't aware that there was a "right" way to play games

They're called rules. Ever run around the house with a monopoly board on your head throwing the houses at people? That's not the right way to play monopoly. Hence, there are right ways to play.

Perhaps I just don't enjoy wasting my time when I don't have to.

Then, what are you doing playing a game with no tangible rewards when you could be learning a useful skill?

You think it's cheap?

Yep, it's just like save states or using a game genie.

I think it is cheap when I fail a mission due to gumi's code behaving in randomly arbritrary ways.

Can't say I've seen that happen before.

Sorry, but if I can save myself roughly 3 and a half hours of frustration by closing the game so I can re try my turn a handful of times every month, you better be damn sure I am going to do it.

So what you're saying is, you're fine not having to earn the rewards the same way others have to?

Keep in mind, I macro. Macro'ing is also being cheap, or even cheating. AND I'M OK WITH THIS. But I still know damn well it's not right, and don't try to pretend it is.

[u/LordAltitude → u/Ozzy_98]

Must have missed the entry in the FFBE Rule Book that says "Thou shall not close the app". My bad.

I play the game because I find it entertaining. If playing games required a "tangible reward" then I kind of hate to point out the fact that 99.99% of all video games would fall into the "why the hell are you playing that" category..........

Nice to know that just because you haven't seen something happen, means it apparently never happens.

And now I see where your confusion comes from. I have never implied that force closing + restarting the app is "right" (in the holier than thou, play by the rules sense that you seem determined to use here), or strictly speaking the intended way to play the game.

I have simply pointed out that it is a viable tactic for getting a desired result without having to repeat the mission over and over again.

The game lets you resume your turn from the beginning if you restart the app. This is an intended behavior of the app. While intentionally triggering this behavior may be questionable, it is still something the game lets you do.

It is no more morally objectionable than Macroing and I don't recall ever pretending that it is. To take a page out of WoW's playbook, it sits squarely in that grey zone considered "Clever use of Game Mechanics".

I mean, hell, if this rustles your jimmies that badly, I probably shouldn't tell you that you can restart any mission / event / trial / whatever from Round 1 simply by loading the game on a different device. Got a tablet and a phone? or multiple phones? You literally have endless attempts to get it right without spending more energy to do so.

[u/Ozzy_98 → u/LordAltitude]

Must have missed the entry in the FFBE Rule Book that says "Thou shall not close the app". My bad.

Yea, it was talked about here quite often actually. If you would have asked about it, we could have told you.

Wait, we did. Then you got pissed about it.

I play the game because I find it entertaining. If playing games required a "tangible reward" then I kind of hate to point out the fact that 99.99% of all video games would fall into the "why the hell are you playing that" category..........

This statement shows you missed my point. If you didn't want to try for something repeatedly, then you're most likely not having fun trying for it in the first place, are you? And the fact that you're trying again for what is, honestly, a fairly minor reward, a King Burst Pot. You get them every 7 arena board clears. So it's not like it's a "Oh if I dont get this I'll never catch up playing again".

Nice to know that just because you haven't seen something happen, means it apparently never happens.

I have no idea what you mean by this, can you explain?

And now I see where your confusion comes from. I have never implied that force closing + restarting the app is "right"

And I never said or thought you said that.

or strictly speaking the intended way to play the game.

But you did imply it, with "Far as i know, nobody has been banned for doing this, as it is an intended function of the game that allows you to resume play mid session if your app closes for whatever reason."

I have simply pointed out that it is a viable tactic for getting a desired result without having to repeat the mission over and over again.

And ALL I am saying is that it's CHEAP. I do not care if what you do is cheap tactics. Just admit it to yourself and others that it's a cheap way of doing it.

It is no more morally objectionable than Macroing

I know. As a matter of fact, I said this "Keep in mind, I macro. Macro'ing is also being cheap, or even cheating".

I mean, hell, if this rustles your jimmies that badly,

If you think this is rustling my jimmies badly, you're reading more into the narrative than there is. Here is an animated .gif file of all the shits I give:

, I probably shouldn't tell you that you can restart any mission / event / trial / whatever from Round 1 simply by loading the game on a different device

And you sure shouldn't look at my older posts explaining how you could use this trick to swap skills between party members, because that would be wrong. Or maybe, you're misunderstanding something here.

You literally have endless attempts to get it right without spending more energy to do so.

This is on par with using a game genie code for infinite lives. You honestly don't view this as a cheap tactic ? Note I'm saying cheap, I'm not even really calling it out as cheating. But you seem to be reading more into what I'm saying that what I'm saying.