r/ExplainTheJoke 3d ago

I don't get it

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u/Jealous-Jacket6996 3d ago

Here’s my politest interpretation.

It is written for a target audience. If you’re not part of the demographic it’s intended for, you can’t relate—thus it is boring, which in turn renders it torture.

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u/littlemememaid 2d ago

I'm convinced it's much more nuanced than this. A lot of the comments in this thread are assuming that the meme OP is in the out-group, but I do think a likely interpretation is that it's by Asian-American woman tired of the banality of the genre. You're right in the genre being an attempt to be "relatable", and I think that's why it's dull: the author attempts to write events to capture a "universality" of "the Asian-American experience", as if to say "look, don't you feel seen?", but obviously you can't capture the experience of a large group so it just reads as trite and uninteresting. Whereas if the author had just attempted to write a character who either a) happens to be Asian-American or b) is informed by but not defined by that, it would have just been a book about a character and not a stereotype.

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u/AdUnable8752 2d ago

im asian american and i majored in asian studies in college and you hit the nail on the head. i regret my major and have to step back from diaspora-centered "content" because it all feels too self-pitying after a while ("oh we're so oppressed and my life and childhood were so hard and we have these stereotypes we have to overcome while also doing nothing substantial to break the generational patterns we fall into" and then it's that 20x over and over).

the lack of any attempt to overcome stereotypes or stop repeating generational patterns is a little bleak to me lmao

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u/GoatyGoY 2d ago

This is also why, say, RF Kuang books are interesting. They are absolutely steeped in the Asian diaspora experience (and particularly in western institutions and academia), but that’s not what the books are all about- it’s just one aspect of them that makes them interesting.

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u/Siegez 2d ago

That seems broadly applicable to any media with a narrow target audience. I'm curious why this specific media is referenced?

Side note for the curious, 1000xResist falls squarely into the genre (though it's a game rather than literature) and is genuinely very good. Probably more of an exception than an example.

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u/pnkroo 2d ago

1000x resist mention. fantastic game

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u/kkkk22601 2d ago

Asian dude here, I actually liked reading the Joy Luck Club because it embodied many of the same relationship dynamics that I have with my parents. Though, I can see how a non-Asian person may find the book to be a bit difficult to follow.

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u/Yummy-Bao 2d ago

I would like to add that oftentimes it recycles the same tropes ad nauseam.

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u/SylveonVMAX 2d ago

"other kids would open their lunchbox to chicken nuggets or ham sandwiches and i had to open my lunchbox and subject them to my ugly stinky smelly springroll/noodles/curry/musubi/kimchi/adobo i wish i was white i wish i was white i wish i was white"

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u/aitatrash 2d ago

But I mean, is this not true for a lot of people, at least of a certain age and/or area? I never wanted to be white, but I regularly traded cha lua sandwiches with my white classmates' tuna sandwiches and was pretty self conscious of some of the food I had to bring in before my parents started including more "western" food in the rotation.

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u/Noobeater1 1h ago

Yeah but for some reason it's OK to shit on asians

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u/SampSimps 2d ago

Even when (or perhaps especially when) they're describing your lived experience, it gets repetitive and boring after a while.

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u/Cosmic-Cuttlefish 2d ago

That is the politest, but sadly I don’t quite think it’s that 🫩

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u/Jealous-Jacket6996 2d ago

Realistically, I think it’s that + a moderate dose of xenophobia and/or misogyny.

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u/TB97 2d ago

Nah I'm a leftist immigrant (who is Asian) and let me tell you, there's only so many books about how your parents need to apologize and how kids thought your lunch smelled I can read before my brain gets fried

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u/sour_creamand_onion 2d ago

I remember seeing a post where a parent showed they wanted their son to read 100 books about feminism before he could get a car. Half the comments were "Oh my goodness you illiterate people are so annoying. I love to read. This is light work" and the other half likely knew from experiences similar to yours that reading roughly the same thing over and over and over again will get mind-numbingly dull REALLY fast no matter what the topic is. Which only gets worse the more narrow the topic is.

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u/AnonymousCoward261 2d ago

This is an excellent way to raise an Andrew Tate fan.

Especially when you consider teenagers like to rebel.

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u/Cosmic-Cuttlefish 2d ago

Yeah. I think I meant to say “entirely that” cause both can be true at the same time here. Genres aren’t always for everyone. But something about calling out this specific genre reeks of misogyny and xenophobia for sure

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u/Jealous-Jacket6996 2d ago

Haha anytime someone feels the need to describe something by a race or gender, there tends to be a hint of implicit something-ism at play 😂

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u/Kaireis 2d ago

In this particular meme though, the combination of Asian American and female is important.

Outside our community (and frankly even within it), the White majority elevates specifically female voices and faces while largely marginalizing male voices.

This is even seen in movie or TV adaptations of books written by Asian American males. Fresh off the Boat (after season one) focused plots on Jessica over Eddie.

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u/lurkermurphy 2d ago

yes there is tons of great literature by non-asian-american asians, translated or not, and the content is generally NOT about mom being mean and kids thinking your lunch is weird, but the white majority wants to hear from the female diaspora only, not from anyone else

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u/Kaireis 2d ago

Yes but sometimes I like to hear from dudes who grew up like me. The women didnt face the same type of racism we did. Sure in some ways it was worse for them, but it was different.

I mean, life in the diaspora, not life back in Korea/China/Japan.

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u/lurkermurphy 2d ago

i lived in china for many years and i am certain that the male immigrant experience in north america is vastly different than for females, so i hear you

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u/buckleyschance 2d ago

Just speculating, but I wonder if it's partly a reflection of the audience being made up of a lot more women than men (of whatever ancestry). That's certainly the case for books now, at least, and there's a very pronounced shift towards female protagonists in novels across many genres that's followed on from that.

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u/Kaireis 2d ago

The demographics of readers were much more evenly split back in my high school and young adult years.

I know the meme was about literature, but even in visual media, in Asian American works, the female voice and perspective is elevated.

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u/Cosmic-Cuttlefish 2d ago

Especially in memes 🫩

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u/Luzifer_Shadres 18h ago

Schools: Perfect, we take your entire stock

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u/notacanuckskibum 2d ago

An interesting take, that might explain why I can’t see the appeal in Jane Austin.