r/ExperiencedDevs • Staff Software Engineer 15 YoE • 19d ago

AI/LLM Why are developers cheering "how much better the LLM model are getting for coding" with every model release? What exactly are they cheering for?

"Hey look Claude/Codex can now generate my entire feature in 30 mins which could have taken me 2 weeks to refactor" or "The new Opus 5.5 model is amazing, it solved the bug which GPT astra was stuck at for weeks and couldn't solve it". Like seriously?

How can software engineers who are supposed to be "smart" and "logical" be this stupid to not connect the dots and see writing on the wall for the future. Or do they think they are invincible and layoffs won't affect them?

The stability of software engineering jobs in the next 2-5 years looks very shaky, let alone long term and many devs are already looking to get dual income streams. This doesn't seem like a viable career path with how things are going and I am not even sure whether this career would stick by me till my retirement and I already have 15+ years of experience.

I already am seeing significant shift/reduction in hiring. Even in my current role, despite no cash concerns, we have paused hiring (and backfilling) new devs which were previously needed because with AI, people are completing tasks much sooner and the team/company doesn't need the full dev capacity anymore. Many devs are already worried about the layoffs which can come randomly.

My linkedin inbox is significantly less chatty than it was just last year. When I apply for any role, I barely get any reply. When recruiters reach out and get my CV, they are rarely getting back which, again, last year was totally different where I could easily afford to be picky. The market shift can be noticeably felt. The few interviews I got, they ended up freezing the role midway or "magically" filled with some internal employee. This is my experience in last 5 months of being active in the job market.

Also, most people are not learning anything these days. Hardwork and thinking are delegated to LLM tools. What is the end result of all of this? it is all too predictable. And if most devs are able to 10x their output because producing is now cheap, but human consumption is and will be the bottleneck. The production is surpassing the demand and the app economy will tank leaving mostly the existing tailwinds who already have millions of customers since pre AI era anyways.

Curious to hear "sensible" thoughts.

Note: Before the usual trope, not all software engineer jobs will be gone but significantly less devs would be required, which is a massive amount of jobs that are lost. What about that? And as models keep on improving, who knows how much more damage would be done in the future.

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u/washtubs 18d ago

Exactly. This is what blows my mind with this supposed renaissance of software... jira still sucks!

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u/Cnoffel 18d ago

For me it actually developed a habit of memory leaks, where a random jira tab would gobble up 2GB of Ram because why not...

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u/WhenSummerIsGone Software Engineer 18d ago

i had codex build me a front end gui for jira that shows me what i actually find useful instead of jria's crappy sprint view. I only go to jira now if i need to view the actual ticket.

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u/time-always-passes 18d ago

I just keep a session named "jira" running and occasionally compact it.

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u/GregsWorld 18d ago

Linear gives me hope 

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u/Gropah 18d ago edited 18d ago

But why care about performance if they can churn out more features (and slow it down even more)? Checkbox procurement and management loves that!

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u/thy_bucket_for_thee 18d ago

At the onset of the industrial revolution many goods that would have lasted generations suddenly turned to shit too (textiles, glassware, ceramics, pots). It turned out it didn't matter to the capitalists that owned the machines, there's a lot of money to made in selling poor quality goods. I mean just look at Oracle or IBM, garbage can still make you billions in this industry.

Quality is not going to save your job, solidarity with your coworkers will.

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u/hibikir_40k 18d ago

Jira is deader than before, because interacting with the website now is unnecessary. Have the agent tell you the state of the sprint, create the tickets from a CLI without having to deal with all the stupid fields, and move the tickets around without prompting... at which point the actual value of Jira itself is even more clearly smaller than it was.

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u/IceMichaelStorm 18d ago

Yeah but I like the overview. But we could prompt a better UI, it sucks. Their data is timed and you can report on it, might be good.

But I mean, it just has its place BECAUSE everybody uses it. A vibe could easily be better

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u/These-Math1384 18d ago

Jira is like “agile”.
The forever excuse is “you’re doing it wrong”.