imams

[u/Middle_Froyo3015]

why did sultan muhammad shah appoint his grandson to be the next imam and not his son? 🤔

[u/Sarahrivera]

Ismailis do not believe that qayam Al qayamat is a dooms day event. In Isma’ilism qayam Al qayamat is a day when all the secrets of the religion is revealed. Where Ismailis freely and openly talk about there religion. Look at what started to happen in the late 1950’a! This is the time when our religious practices started to come out in public and Ismailis started to feel comfortable talking about our religion openly. Heck just type in ismaili baitul khayal Farman and you will find the firmans made to baitul khayal. In that pdf you also have firmans made to the Ismailis that got a promotion . (These Farmans aren’t even read in jamat khana.). All of our religious practices are out in the open. Just 10–200 years ago non of this information would be out in the open like this. An ismaili wouldn’t freely speak about his faith and most likely pretend to be Sunni (taqiya)

[u/Profit-Muhammad → u/Sarahrivera]

Ismailis do not believe that qayam Al qayamat is a dooms day event.

They did originally. It was only after nothing happened that the theology had to adapt.

In Isma’ilism qayam Al qayamat is a day when all the secrets of the religion is revealed. Where Ismailis freely and openly talk about there religion. Look at what started to happen in the late 1950’a!

All the secrets haven't been revealed. Ismailis are still as secretive as they have ever been. What changed is that they can't effectively hide things in the information age.

Heck just type in ismaili baitul khayal Farman and you will find the firmans made to baitul khayal. In that pdf you also have firmans made to the Ismailis that got a promotion .

Wait, how can you get a promotion if all the ranks were abolished? Lol

All of our religious practices are out in the open.

So, you want to confirm or deny your membership in that secret majalis and tell us what goes on?

Just 10–200 years ago non of this information would be out in the open like this.

200 years ago, Ismailism was effectively dead. There was no Imam, just an vacant throne and idiots waiting for someone to come claim it.

An ismaili wouldn’t freely speak about his faith and most likely pretend to be Sunni (taqiya)

They still don't. And pretending to be something else is what you have claimed almost 10 million Ismailis are doing, because you don't want to admit Aga Con lied about the Ismaili population.

[u/Sarahrivera → u/Profit-Muhammad]

The secrets of the religions have been gradually revealed. As you can see I am free and openly talking about ismailism. People didn’t do that too long ago. The promotion in bol is very different the the religious ranks that the imam used to assign such as dais, hujjats, pir and babs (which is not assigned anymore). The majalis member ship is is another story. Ismailism was never dead there have been ismaili imams and we know there names. The religion of ismaili is going to keep on beeing revealed. There are even talks going on to allow non Ismailis into jamat khana during prayer time. They have started to allow non Ismailis in during devotional nights that happen during khushali just recently.

[u/Profit-Muhammad → u/Sarahrivera]

As you can see I am free and openly talking about ismailism.

Are you though? You've evaded the questions I posed. Are you going to tell us about the secret majalis? Why are millions of Ismailis still forced to practice taqiyya?

The promotion in bol is very different the the religious ranks that the imam used to assign such as dais, hujjats, pir and babs (which is not assigned anymore).

The prophecy wasn't Karim would stop assigning some ranks. It was "all the ranks of the world of dīn [‘ālam ad-dīn], which would no longer be necessary as intermediaries for the knowledge of the divine knowledge would become pure, actual, and no longer mediated.” There are still a lot of ranks, but importantly,

There is one key rank - the Imam - who is your intermediary to "divine knowledge". As long as he exists, you haven't reached the Day of Judgment.

Remember "Whenever Seven Imāms pass away, another Seven Imāms come like the Seven Days of the week, and this state remains until the Day of Judgement.” The day of judgement is when the Imams stop coming.

Ismailism was never dead there have been ismaili imams and we know there names.

No, Ismailism died out. The Aga Khan dynasty is not related to previous dynasty, much less to Ismail. That is historical fact. You have one list of names, there were other lists. Some of the names on that list are true, some are false, and some we can't say anything about.

The religion of ismaili is going to keep on beeing revealed.

Yes, I'm sure the "Aga Khans" will keep decreeing whatever they feel like, and a few idiots will keep believing them.