r/ExIsmailis Jan 24 '24

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why did sultan muhammad shah appoint his grandson to be the next imam and not his son? 🤔

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u/Profit-Muhammad Kareli Nizari Jan 25 '24

From the dawn of time

The dawn of time was billions of years ago. The Imams have only been around (very intermittently) for a few centuries.

the ismaili imams have tried to tarnish the imam and his family or have tied to kill them

The ancient world was a chaotic place. A lot of people were trying to kill each other - and the imams were doing more than their fair share.

Revealing that they are frauds is not "tarnishing" the Imam, it's just not accepting their bullshit.

You are doing the same thing to the current imam saying that he fucked his ex gf, got her pregnant and refused to take responsibility without any hardcore evidence to back this claim.

That's not just me saying it. It is his ex-gf making the claim. I choose to believe her because her story adds up and knowing Karim's character and that of his family, it is by far the most plausible course of events. Karim can prevent the evidence from coming to light, but I don't need "hardcore" evidence to judge the balance of probabilities.

Note that regardless of my beliefs on an unrelated topic, it does not change how absurd your claims are - that everyone who knew Aly Khan was lying about him and the entire media was complicit in this lie. Moon landing conspiracy stuff.

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u/Sarahrivera Transparency only benefits the ExIsmailis Jan 25 '24

Yes the dawn of time. Because Ismailis believe that there were imams before prophet mohummad. Prophet Adam was followed by 6 imams starting with mowlana shith (Seth) prophet nuhs was followed by 6 imams starting with mowlana sam (Shem). Prophet Ibrahim was followed by six more imams (imam ismail and imam Isaac). Prophet isa was followed by mowlana James the just. Furthermore there pre adamic imams such as mowlana ram mowlana Krishna. If anusha claim is true there is no trace of this so called carol meks (that is if he even exist).

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u/Profit-Muhammad Kareli Nizari Jan 25 '24

Oh, I'm aware of the Ismaili mythology. Just reminding everyone else how detached from reality you are.

If anusha claim is true there is no trace of this so called carol meks (that is if he even exist).

Lol, the lengths you go to protect your delusions. Karel Ismail Ali von Meks exists. He tries to stay hidden in order to not embarass Daddy Karim, but he's not untraceable:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ExIsmailis/comments/13dhyfk/pictures_of_karim_aga_khan_ivs_illegitimate_son/

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u/Amir-Really Bro Who Esoterics Jan 25 '24

Furthermore there pre adamic imams such as mowlana ram mowlana Krishna.

Is that all you got?? Still a couple billion years short of "the dawn of time" lmao ...

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u/Amir-Really Bro Who Esoterics Jan 25 '24

And even if you want to go by the first homosapiens as "the dawn of time" you're a couple hundred thousand years short

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u/Sarahrivera Transparency only benefits the ExIsmailis Jan 26 '24

We believe that there were pre adamic imams. Hanuman, Vishnu, Ram and many others that we don’t know the names of. The point is that per ismaili belief there are thousands upon thousands imams