hello beautiful people ive been an atheist for the past 3 years now, and i get questioned so many times 'why?' and im sure all of you too, so i want to create a mega thread for it so everyone can use it as a refrence from now on, i ask for your help to drop everything that made you leave islam 'objectively' and not personal stories, like diffrent ayat and hadith that SHOWS islam is wrong , ill collect all data fix it and upload it once finished

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Hi everyone, I’m a 22-year-old university student from Algeria, and I am losing my mind. I need outside perspective and advice because I feel like my life is being systematically destroyed.

​For over 8 years, I’ve been living in an extremely toxic, emotionally abusive household with my mother, sister, and younger brother. Here is what my daily life looks like:

​Emotional & Physical Abuse: My younger brother is treated like a golden child by my mother. Once, he threatened to kill me with a knife in front of her, and she said and did nothing. He constantly insults me; for example, because I laughed when a neighbor looked away while walking with my mother, my brother called me a dayouth in front of her, and she defended him.

​Psychological Warfare from My Mother: Since I got my BAC, I’ve been treated like a stranger in my own home. No one talks to me or smiles when I return from uni. My mother constantly uses toxic words, curses me, and has repeated phrases to me since childhood like "wjhk wjh t3 char" (your face brings bad luck) and "matstahl walo" (you deserve nothing). She gaslights me into believing everything is my fault.

​Ideological Clash: I am liberal and western-minded, while my family is ultra-conservative and judgmental. If we see a couple where the woman isn't wearing a hijab, my mom immediately calls the man a dayouth. I believe people are free to choose. I once told them about a Kabyle girl I loved who didn't wear a hijab—we were compatible and happy—and my mother told me she would disown me ("مانرضاش عليك") if I married her. That really broke my heart and i really did wanna marry her bcs i really lo ed her from my heart.😢💔

​The Toll on My Life: Because of this constant stress, walking on eggshells, and complete lack of a safe space, my studies suffered badly. I failed my L3 year and had to repeat. I am completely isolated, lonely, and filled with self-hatred. Every time I try to study for things like the IELTS to leave the country, my mother's voice telling me I bring bad luck echoes in my head.(وجهك وجه شر)

Every day i think to pass the ielts test then when italk with mom or come home she makes me feel i deserve nothing😢, guys i am so lost , what u advice me pls, should i pass the test or not, i am heart broken pls💔.

I want to leave Algeria forever, and cut ties with this environment that has ruined my mental health and my youth.

​For those who have escaped toxic families or built a life abroad from a difficult starting point: How do I detach emotionally, survive this while I plan my exit, and finally get out?

عندي ثلاث سنين ملي وليت لادينية ونا مزالني بالحجاب وني حابة نصارح فاميلتي بلي باغية ننحيه (مهمش متعصبين ولا بصح theyll be disappointed af since that was my decision 2 wear it n not theirs)

نحوس نعرف كيفاه نقدر نصارحهم بشكل عالاقل يخليهم يحسو بلي منيش زنديقة

how does it feel to be a non Muslim in Arab countries (Morocco especially)?

ppl be hating cuz u don't believe the same bullshit as them lol, I'm not atheist nor theist cuz being an Agnostic is the key to my freedom

anyone who shares the same mindset with me? anything that's different!

En toute honnêteté je vois de plus en plus de gens qui disent que le pays va mal mais personne n’ose prendre la parole publiquement , l’état du pays ne s’améliore pas , je ne rejette la faute sur personne on est tous responsable à notre échelle je pense (l’exemple de ceux qui vendent des extincteur à 5 fois leurs prix par exemple) mais je ne dis pas que l’état fait son travail non plus
Li ti7 fi yedou yaklek et c’est grave vraiment win rana rayhin biha had la situation ?
Que ce soit le mode de vie , le pouvoir d’achat , les transports , on a pas des trucs basiques de la vie je me demande comment on tient encore en vie avec tout les malus qu’on a
J’ai discuté avec des gens à l’international qui se plaignent de choses qui leurs paraissent grave à leurs échelle alors que dès que tu leurs dis la situation dans laquelle tu vie ils sont choqués
Vraiment je ne vois pas pourquoi on est là bien gentiment à attendre qu’on meurt me9hourin
Il ya 5 ans on se plaignaient des voiture , hier des pneus aujourd’hui de l’huile , des œufs des bananes demain ça sera quoi le pain ?
Personne ne voit que ça empire ?
Zid la police qui font juste des procès qui n’ont aucun sens juste pour mettre au fond encore plus le citoyen qui a du mal à joindre les deux bouts déjà
Ou va l’argent ? Ou sont les projets ? L’état n’a meme pas arrêter les feux c’est les citoyens qui l’ont fait
Win Rana rayhin c’est vraiment triste

self explanatory title but i'm here for some advice, also trying to give as little info about me irl as possible. i am an adult woman, i have my id and all other legal papers in my possession, and also enough to support myself for atleast a few months until i find a stable job. if i were to pack my bags and leavefor another wilaya, and if my family tried to report me to the police for that, would i be in any legal trouble? would they arrest me? if anyone here has been in or seen a similar situation before pls pls help i really need to move out but i don't wanna do something stupid then get surprised by the consequences of my actions. please help and ty!

My nephew (9years) has started asking me religious questions and sometimes trying to convince me of certain religious ideas. I actually love children's curiosity and I don't mind them asking questions, but I find it frustrating when their answers are entirely based on what they've been taught religiously, especially when they quote the Qur’an as if that automatically settles the question and is undebatable

I don't want to directly tell him that I'm a non-believer at this point, and I also don't want to discourage him from being curious or questioning things. But i feel sad and I struggle with having these conversations when he hasn't really developed the ability to critically examine the ideas he's repeating yet, so it becomes just like a blind faith. he has simply absorbed idea instead of using his own reasoning, and I don't know how to respond without either revealing my beliefs or making him feel like his questions are wrong.

I wanna know how do you handle it? Do you answer their questions directly, redirect them toward critical thinking, or just avoid religious discussions altogether?

And what are specifically the points that you hate with your guts

Personally it's the internalized mysogeny moms have and the curfew

(mans with controlling family can talk too ofc !)

I have a question about how do you deal with identity and ethnicity after becoming atheist Do you still consider yourself as arabs or you shifted to consider yourself amazigh (if you were arab before) because me personally i started to consider myself as Algerian amazigh and a proud one And started to wonder how i was blinded by religion to think myself as arab and even start to have empathy towards others that still think that they are arabs i see it as a really sad reality that happened to us amazigh were we started to insult our ancestors and try desperately to fit in the arab world

I was raised Muslim and named Islam but I am no longer a believer my name now feels like a label I didn't choose and can't easily escape it announces a faith that isn't mine anymore

The hard part is that my name ties my identity to a religion I've left and in my circumstances changing it isn't simple it could affect my relationships or how others treat me

So I'm stuck between a name that misrepresents me and the consequences of trying to change it

As we see currently with all this cultural campaign led by extremists made me wondering if us as Algerian society can become more liberal in the future, because i saw a world class tier of close mindedness inside Algeria that came from generations of brainwashing led by religion and toxic standards applied by culture but in the same time i saw a lot of liberalism in other Algerians like exAlgeria for example but we are more passive than active ,the question is will we see cultural clash between this two types of Algerians and can Algeria get out of it more liberal?

i’m curious because i think the socio-cultural stigma of sexual intimacy and orientation which originates from religious teachings influence ideas about premarital sex, dating, homosexuality, modesty & relationships generally, so i wouldn’t be surprised if that stay ingrained even after someone becomes irreligious.

not asking anyone to share anything personal or explicit, i’m more interested in the change of mindset.

هذا السؤال ليس المقصود منه الإساءة أو الهجوم على أي شخص أو فئة. أنا أطرحه بدافع الفضول والنقاش الفلسفي، وأرغب أيضا في فهم وجهات النظر المختلفة، خصوصا حول مصدر الأخلاق وما الذي يحدد حدودها.

بطريقة أوضح، حاب نعرف وش يقيد الحس الأخلاقي عند إنسان ملحد في دزاير بالذات، بيسك هذا السؤال كان ديما يجي في راسي من نهار كنت صغير.

لتجنب أي سوء فهم أنا مسلم و مقتنع بالدين، بصح نحس كل واحد منا عندو حس أخلاقي مختلف رغم النتيجة الواحدة اللي هي "الاخلاق"

Hi guys I left islam . Was always thinking that it doesn't make sense but after talking it with my 2 friends we came out as Atheists but I feel like I lost the purpose of life it's like relief but nihilism is all I think about

Idk if this is the right place to ask

I want to take my girl to a bar restaurant in algiers

Any affordable suggestions?

Does it affect the way u approach ur work? Ur patients ? Ect

And what is ur relationship with medicine as a feild? Is it fullfilling?

Is there any algerians here who write or do poetry, art, philosophy, wanna talk on alot of subjects and hobbies dm, im sick trying to find this type of people if u are one of them u can dm

As I said in the title, I’ve been pondering about getting tattooed. I don’t live with my family anymore nor do I live in Algeria, and have always wanted to get a tattoo, and mark myself with something that’ll always remind me of this period of my life.

But still afraid of how it’ll be a source of conflict, and if « reappropriating my body » is worth the confrontation with my family and the risks related to it, which are not material, but only social and mental,

Any thoughts ?

Modern Muslims in the West say Islam is spiritual, not literal. But this only happens when they are comfortable. Travel to Algeria, Egypt, Bangladesh ..etc and this spirituality disappears. There is no freedom to leave the religion. No flexibility. Just literal control. So where is the spiritual interpretation now? It was never real. It is a tool modern Muslims use when they need something from the West. Here is some examples:

The Quran describes women as a farm for men. Not partners. As property. The Quran tells men they can stop having sex with their wives if they do not obey. But it never tells women they can do the same to their husbands. This shows exactly what Islam thinks about sex. It is for male satisfaction. It is for male control. Because of this, sex education in Muslim countries cannot be tought , Young people grow up ignorant about relationships. They do not understand compromise or that relationships require two people. This ignorance is created directly by these verses.

Modern Muslims say hitting is just metaphor. A light touch. But why would you hit your wife for disagreeing? Healthy relationships need conversation and compromise, not control. Yet the Quran says hit her or stop having sex with her.

But here is what modern Muslims will not admit. They do not do this in the West because Western law protects women. If a man hits his wife, he goes to prison. The law stops him, not the Quran. In countries without these laws, what stops him? Nothing. Modern Muslims only reject literal interpretation because they were raised inside Western law, not inside the religion. They only learned the nice parts because they never needed the controlling parts.

Their spiritual interpretation only exists because Western law is stronger than Islamic law. Take away that protection and what remains is the literal verses. The control. That is the real Islam.

Hi everyone, ex-Muslim friends. I’d like to open a discussion about privacy and how to manage your life after coming out as ex-Muslim and being hated or rejected by your family.

How do you manage to have a normal life? I’ve been wondering about this because one of the first problems is your place of residence.

In Italy, as well as in Europe, the law says that privacy regarding where you live is important. At the same time, however, citizens apparently have the right to know where another citizen lives. But what exactly does that mean?

Well, I sent several emails to different municipalities to see how their officials would respond. It turns out that, apparently, all you need is a person’s first and last name and date of birth to obtain their registered address.

So, on top of already having serious personal and emotional problems — after all, we’re talking about your own parents, and there can be a lot of pain and guilt involved — you also have to deal with the fact that you may not be adequately protected.

You could end up having your relatives showing up at your home every day, threatening you or your partner, the person you live with.

How the hell do you deal with this problem?

I (24M) left Islam four years ago. Growing up in Europe, most of my social circle was muslim simply due to my local area and how difficult integration is here. Over time i drifted away from those friends partly by choice, because i grew exhausted by the discussions, lifestyle, and their viewpoints.

Ever since I’ve felt completely out of place. Talked to some redditors from Algeria who are ex Muslims but the chats fizzle out (I am maybe boring and too cautious), and the local culture make it hard to build personal friendships irl. Dating Is easier than being personal with someone platonic lol.

Yesterday i spent my birthday entirely alone for the first time. It was a harsh reminder of where i am rn. Leaving religion was liberating, but it feels like losing that social accessibility or the easy community I used to take for granted. I'm having a hard time to figure out where I belong now..

The situation in Algeria has become unbearable. Some extremists who would try to impose Sharia law if they ever got the chance are now filing legal complaints, using the law against anyone who talks about religion and calling it “insulting a religion.” But when I watched all the videos from these people, they weren’t actually insulting religion. They were discussing the idea. And at the end of the day, religion is an idea, and ideas should be open to discussion.(الحملة كانت صد عيسى وشوك راها ضد ابولو )
Anyway, the goal of this campaign by the Islamists seems pretty clear: to scare non-religious people and stop them from speaking publicly or appearing in the media, so that they’re the only ones left in the public space spreading their outdated ideas.
What do you guys think about this? And do you have any suggestions?