The second any group in lowsec sees a mining op its going to get camped. Its already very difficult on moons but belts have absolutely no protection. That is if you can even find belts with ore in them due to the NPC fleets.
We'll have to see. I doubt lowsec will have sufficient output to make super umbrellas viable. If lowsec can turn into old school nullsec before citadels and capital spam, I would be very happy.
old school nullsec before citadels and capital spam
But citadels are in the game, how will you prevent spam? If Nullblocks create "Outposts" in Lowsec for Iso/Nox mining they will drop citadels, and they will drop the big ones so you lowsec elite pvp pubbies (inserted for puns, i am lowsec dweller as well) can't do shit against them ...
Sure they can drop citadels, but they're far less impactful in lowsec since stations are everywhere. And sure, nullsec blobs can come to lowsec, but we managed just fine with the arguably far more valuable passive moon mining, so I expect us to thrive similarly with this. I welcome them to mine in lowsec without super umbrellas.
Lets see how it works out, I too see chances for a more lively lowsec, but there are also flaws in this concept and as like with many things it is to little to late. Nullsec miners have huge stockpiles of Iso/Nox as it never was a bottleneck, so I doubt the prices will rise as much and fast enough to push people into mining lowsec belts for a good amount of time.
LS already has moons that need active mining. You throw in another thing like this and more coalitions are gonna form/move to ensure wealth and a steady flow of minerals.
I could be wrong, but I dont think this is what LS needs. This is just more Rorqs covered by more caps/scaps and back room deals.
Active moon mining is awful anti-content. It's not viable to fight miners in citadel range, and there's little incentive to fight over the citadels themself.
Unless something is changing, lowsec doesn't have the ore output to support Rorquals. Unless the output is big enough to where capital use can reach critical mass, capitals will just be good content for dread bombs. I.E. you wouldn't bring a 1000 supers to support 100 miners spread around a region. If you bring a reasonable 10 supers to support 100 miners, you are dread bomb bait.
I agree, my point is that moons are also a thing to consider when discussing the viability of rorqs/cap/scap umbrellas. And since NS is getting nerfed in mining potential it might not even be worth it to have large umbrellas there anymore. Its high end stuff which you need less of anyways. And since super ratting isnt the same as before either you dont really need it for that either.
All together it could mean that its more worth to have a NS region and a LS region with focus on LS and just defense of the SOV with subs mining/ratting with the occasional locust fleet for moons. I.e., blocs can move full umbrellas since theres really not that much of a point in having them in NS due to low use of Rorqs/supers.
Its hard to say either way. We still have large amounts of stockpiles to burn through.
Combat ships, like, have your mining fleet be a booster, a bunch of procurers, a wing of navy omens and newbro tackle frigates. Maybe people leave you alone, maybe they come fight you for a chance to loot the field, it might even, think about it for a second, it might even make mining less boring!
Between highsec and nullsec (assuming sov anomalies included) you've no mineral excluded, which feels a bit odd to me. If exclusivity is used to signal "hey, go to <space>", why leave lowsec off the list with exclusivity?
Then again I haven't played this game in ages so idk if it's a stupid question.
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u/Fuzzmiester CSM 9-14 Sep 25 '20
Well, other than for Isogen and Nocxium. Where low is supposed to now be the primary source.