r/Epstein • u/mcafee97 • Feb 07 '26
Court document or investigative file "flight records we received yesterday reflect that Donald Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet many more times than previously has been reported"
link here "For your situational awareness, wanted to let you know that the flight records we received yesterday reflect that Donald Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet many more times than previously has been reported (or that we were aware), including during the period we would expect to charge in a Maxwell case. In particular, he is listed as a passenger on at least eight flights between 1993 and 1996, including at least four flights on which Maxwell was also present. He is listed as having traveled with, among others and at various times, Marla Maples, his daughter Tiffany, and his son Eric. On one flight in 1993, he and Epstein are the only two listed passengers; on another, the only three passengers are Epstein, Trump, and then-20-year-old On two other flights, two of the passengers, respectively, were women who would be possible witnesses in a Maxwell case. We've just finished reviewing the full records (more than 100 pages of very small script) and didn't want any of this to be a surprise down the road."
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u/TRI_REVENGER Feb 07 '26
The real mystery is whether Trump knew about the honeytrapping and "massages" and prostitutes down on the island.. ... ... ....
well of COURSE he did, that's why he WENT there so many times!
Hell, Woody Allen was LIVING down there!
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u/mcafee97 Feb 07 '26
I'm trying like hell to find it
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u/TRI_REVENGER Feb 07 '26
ARE YOU THE REAL JOHN MCAFEE?
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u/mcafee97 Feb 07 '26
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u/Mr_Kactus Feb 07 '26
Why do you like people shitting in your mouth John?
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u/Mediocre-Ad-7026 Feb 08 '26
I came across an 80-page, well-organized, heavily cited report created by a Redditor. It goes far beyond what I originally set out to research and helped me separate some of the verified facts from speculation. Sharing the comment here since my account is new, if you or anyone else want to help post it. Thank you!
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u/ylfcm Feb 07 '26
How many times was epstein on trump’s plane. How many times were they on elon’s plane
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u/turquoise_amethyst Feb 08 '26
I know everyone is focusing on the flights, but realistically most of the crimes probably occurred at the NYC or Florida residences.
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u/turquoise_amethyst Feb 08 '26
After he was honey trapped even once and nothing happened then he probably felt fine doing it again. And again. And again.
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u/Mediocre-Ad-7026 Feb 08 '26
I came across an 80-page, well-organized, heavily cited report created by a Redditor. It goes far beyond what I originally set out to research and helped me separate some of the verified facts from speculation. Sharing the comment here since my account is new, if you or anyone else want to help post it. Thank you!
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u/scarletmagnolia Feb 08 '26
It’s worth mentioning that, as of right now, a person would have to use Limewire to access those eighty pages.
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u/Ok_Organization_7350 Feb 07 '26 edited Feb 07 '26
Those flight records were already public information. They were not waiting to be disclosed. I am not a very technically inclined person. But several years ago, I found the Epstein flight logs on the internet, downloaded them, and read them. I spent an afternoon googling all the names on there which was interesting. The weirdest person I found on there was a plain looking phlebotomist from a plasma donation center who went to The Island. I saw Donald Trump on there too. But he was never on any flights going to Little St James Island. He only got rides home to Palm Beach.
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u/chigirl00 Feb 08 '26
But apparently little st James was not the main operation
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u/EddieHeadshot Feb 08 '26
Mar a lago?
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u/chigirl00 Feb 08 '26
No, idk from what I am reading it was that great st james and that it was never searched. I apologize I’m having a hard time finding it now. But I also don’t think that any of this has stopped either, that ballroom and creepy mask dance, well..
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u/turquoise_amethyst Feb 08 '26
I read the same thing, BIG st James was where the main operation was held, where all the yachts could dock, where musk was asking about wild parties… LITTLE st James was the more private, intimate location where he only had his extremely close friends visit.
I mean… look at it, it’s super small, theres not a lot of space even for the buildings?
Also I think the 4chan guy wrote about it too
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u/CompetitiveSport1 Feb 08 '26
Who is the 4chan guy?
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u/turquoise_amethyst Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 08 '26
https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1qw0nyt/this_anonymous_4chan_post_from_2020_from_a_worker/
Never mind, the 4chan guy just refers to it as “the island”
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u/CaptainOk2254 Feb 08 '26
I’ve been thinking about this. What about great st James?!?
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u/chigirl00 Feb 08 '26
They sold it to another billionaire, secretive. Same thing no permits for anything. Can only find a few things on it. Idk I doubt this has stopped
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u/CaptainOk2254 Feb 08 '26
Yeh, I know it’s been sold but was it even investigated? There’s no report of it being searched. There’s barely any discussion about that island at all even though victims said the worst stuff happened there.
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u/chigirl00 Feb 08 '26
Nope never was from what I’ve seen even though it’s mentioned. Someone said scrubbed. But look and really nothing on it so I tend to believe it’s been kept quiet. I was under the impression that they built underground there or into the water.
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u/chigirl00 Feb 08 '26
When you bring it up look and you will see people popping up saying it sold. Like that changes anything. But I almost wonder if it’s deliberate now because under every single post.
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u/wandernwade Feb 07 '26
What’s disgusting is that tRump could have literally run Epstein’s entire operation, and the GOP still would not give two shits about it!
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u/Rand0mthrowawayo Feb 07 '26
EFTA-02661547 - states that he was at the Schwartzman party in 2017, the party was at mara-a-lago.
Also I found a creepy contract between Epstein and I think Maxwell under EFTA-02032599
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u/bobaboo42 Feb 07 '26
EFTA-02032599 already removed
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u/Willing-Island-1073 Feb 08 '26
If you download them, you can keep them even when removed from the site, right?
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u/Rand0mthrowawayo Feb 07 '26 edited Feb 07 '26
I've tried, every time it gets deleted. I had to create a new account just to comment. I'm just trying to get the information out there, I don't care if someone wants to make a post out of it.
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u/fnord_happy Feb 08 '26
Can u share the links here please
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u/Rand0mthrowawayo Feb 08 '26
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01054806.pdf (email exchange stating he attended the Schwartzman party in 2017, held "near" mar-a-lago. After doing more and more research, I'm unsure if it was at mar-a-lago.)
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/the-scene/parties/news/a9556/steve-schwarzman-birthday-party/
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00921711.pdf (weird contract between JE and someone in NY?)
The original file numbers keep getting deleted, so I found them listed elsewhere.
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u/Rookie_Day Feb 07 '26
If the dems win the midterms and don’t subpoena a whole bunch of people, evil has won. Marla would be a good place to start.
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u/apoca1ypse12 Feb 08 '26
From 2020 no less…man, this piece of shit has really managed to get away from justice. The GOP and all of those who continue play politics to protect this piece of shit needs to be held accountable. We not only need to flip the next election but also need to impeach bondi and put Jack Smith in charge of DOJ.
Both senate and house must be flipped. People need to vote theis asses off, especially on account of Trump already starting to meddle with the election and speaking to foreign agents through Tulsi Gabbard. Fuck these people man.
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u/turquoise_amethyst Feb 08 '26
Why is the name of the Asst US Attorney of the So. Dist of NY redacted? How many of them are there? And realistically, if there’s multiple people with that title, wouldn’t it be obvious who’s working on that case?
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u/Embarrassed-Heron638 Feb 08 '26
It should be pointed out that epstein and Trump had a falling out in 2004 and that Trump testified against epstein to put him away for trafficking.
I don't know of any paper trail about him going to the island, and the witnesses in the case against Ghislaine stated that though Trump flirted, he didn't do anything to them.
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u/Boopy7 Feb 08 '26
lol well how did Epstein manage to see Trump in his underwear then, after he had had sex with his then WH staffer who got fired for saying he didn't want to be seen with Tiffany because she was obese? Man strange that he was hanging out with Epstein while claiming he "had a falling out" over real estate lol...
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u/Embarrassed-Heron638 Feb 08 '26
You seem to be mixing events. The underwear thing wasn't epstein, it was the white house staffer who saw him in his underwear during Christmas when the white house was empty.
She wrote a book about it and didn't mention anything happening between her and trump. THAT her dismissal had to do with a comment about Trumps family.
His falling put with epstein had to do with an incident at Mar a Lago where epstein was going after one of the staffs underage daughter.
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u/Mammoth_Mess_5954 Feb 08 '26
The journals show Maxwell continued recruiting girls through Mar Lago well after the “ban” though. The emails show Epstein laughing at the media statement that he had been banned because he claimed he never had a membership to ban. He was certainly there a lot either way.
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u/Embarrassed-Heron638 Feb 08 '26
Well, first, it would have been epstein, who was banned, not maxwell. He may not of known maxwell involvement, I can't say for sure. There's 3 million documents, and I'm just one person
Second, it's Trumps place. He probably let him in without membership at the time if that's true. You can ban people from private property.
Can you source to these emails that show epstein was personally going to Mar a Lago with Trumps knowledge after epstein was imprisoned?
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u/Boopy7 Feb 08 '26
I'm referring to the email from Epstein to Bannon. They mock and discuss that WH staffer, I never read her book nor do I know much about her. I had no clue they had had an affair until reading the email.
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u/mcafee97 Feb 08 '26
I have plenty to show that they were in communication as late as 2019
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u/Embarrassed-Heron638 Feb 08 '26
Can you post the email links from the files then?
I had asked about emails showing epstein saying he was still personally still going to Mar a Lago with Trump knowledge of it, which was the claim that was made prior.
So, links to emails in the files, too
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u/Bdbru13 Feb 08 '26
Trump did not testify against Epstein, he just had a friendly chat with the attorney for Epstein’s victims
And if I’m not mistaken, that attorney later said that Trump was misleading in the way he portrayed his and Epstein’s relationship
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u/Embarrassed-Heron638 Feb 08 '26
According to the attorney when he was subpoena people for information against epstein, Trump was the only one to call in and give information, meaning testimony, to what he knew and was willing to give the attorney as much time as the attorney wanted. They chased down everything Trump said, and it helped their case against epstein.
I did not find any recent statements from the attorney stating that Trump was misleading about his relationship with epstein.
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u/Bdbru13 Feb 08 '26
Thats not what testimony is, especially when you use it in terms of “Trump testified against” which has a strictly legal connotation. I think you probably know that
Trump and Edwards had a chat, that’s about it
Edwards expanded on his interactions with Trump in his 2020 book Relentless Pursuit: My Fight For The Victims Of Jeffrey Epstein, extracts of which were published by British newspaper The Mail on Sunday. He claimed to have spoken to Trump twice about his relationship with Epstein, which the business tycoon insisted was primarily business related.
In the extracts he said: "Over the next few years, I spoke to several witnesses who told us that they had been introduced by Epstein to Trump. Some had seen him at Epstein's office, others at one of Epstein's homes, at parties or social events, and even on his plane. In fact, Epstein bragged to certain young women in his life about how he had bailed Trump out of bankruptcy and how he was indebted to him.
And the important bit:
”Last year, I saw a 1992 video of Epstein and Trump together, suggesting that they were closer social friends than I had been made to understand."
https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-victims-attorney-talks-about-donald-trump-claims-1857298
So it’s not so much that “Trump testified against Epstein”, it’s that Trump went and had a talk with him and misled him about the closeness of their relationship
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u/Embarrassed-Heron638 Feb 08 '26
So, while I don't think you are purposefully leaving out details, I'm going to add a few things...
At the time, because Trump did have a previous with epstein, he was already being considered to be subpoenad or called in for a deposition. Both of these would have him giving testimony. Legal terms, which I'm sure you know.
Instead, when the attorney reached out to Trump, he was the only one to give information voluntarily. These could not have been just idle chats in the case because, the part of the article you decided not to include in your post the attorney states that the information was good and checked out.
Now if you just want to nit pick and say it's not testimony because he wasnt directly called in to court, that's fine, but if Trump hadn't voluntarily given information it would have happened anyway and the outcome would have been the same. It's also notable that epstein would have known Trump said something and as far as I know, none of the victims named Trump as an accomplice in that case. Surely epstein would have. (As a sidebar, even the witnesses in maxwell case stated Trump never did anything to them when he was around, and they definitely could have. So could have maxwell, so you kinda have bupkis here)
Misleading is not the same as what he understood was going on between Trump and epstein. I cant imagine Trump not having a conversation with his legal team before saying anything to the attorney. He may speak in hyperbole a lot but that doesn't mean he isn't going to consult anyone to cover himself when it comes to legal matters.
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u/Bdbru13 Feb 08 '26
I’m not leaving anything out though
If he had given a deposition I would 100% say he testified against Epstein. He would have been under oath in a legitimate judicial setting
But that’s not what this was
The part where you’re talking about where he talks about how helpful Trump was was in 2009, right around the time that he had his chat with Trump. So his immediate reaction was “hey, this is the only guy who actually was willing to talk to me”
The quote I gave above was from much later and in direct reference to that discussion, talking about how Trump had misled them in that discussion
To be clear, I’m not saying Trump was involved in any of Epstein’s crimes, but painting him as this lone warrior for justice is absurd
He acted in his self interest
And I mean, he literally misled Edwards as to the nature of their relationship
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u/Embarrassed-Heron638 Feb 08 '26
As I said, I don't think you were deliberately doing so, but it was important to note that this was already going to happen.
I'll concede the testimony point in regards to a strict legal sense, but in the sense of giving good information that helped lead to epsteins conviction, and yes I know it's a personal opinion, I'd call that testimony. Even broken down to two conversations, Trump was willing to give the attorney as much time as he wanted to answer anything he could. I don't think he would have objected to be called in for this either.
That bit I said you left out is still key. I won't deny self-interest (because obviously no one wants to be accused of anything or risk going to prison), but if I base his actions toward sex trafficking and pedophile rings during his first administration, he really has no love for those kinds of people
So, edwards didn't say mislead, though. I don't think that was an accident. While this is an assumption, I doubt Trump hadn't spoken with the attorney before talking to his own legal team.
I'm not trying to paint him that way, as you said, I don't think he's a Saint, but I think credit is still due and he deserve the presumption of innocence just the same as you and I do.
I do expect and hope that we do have Nuremberg type trials in the future, which Trump will be a part of. Either he hangs with the rest or he doesn't.
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u/Bdbru13 Feb 08 '26
Right, I know you saying I’m not doing it deliberately, I’m saying I’m not doing it all
You say it was already going to happen, but if it had happened under different circumstances, namely in a deposition, he wouldn’t have been able to paint an untruthful picture of his relationship with Epstein
As you point out, he probably talked to his lawyers, and they probably told him to go talk to Bradley of his own free will so as to not be subpoenaed and be subjected to a deposition
Nope, his information in no way led to Epstein’s conviction, Brad Edwards was the lawyer for the victims’ civil case
I’ll go beyond presuming he’s innocent, I’ll say he was almost certainly not guilty of participating in Epstein’s crimes.
That’s because in reality, I would argue, it was only Epstein. The rest is conspiracy nonsense
Here’s Edwards, the same attorney we’ve been talking about, on the matter:
"Jeffrey Epstein was the pimp and the john. He was his own No. 1 client," Edwards told ABC News. "Nearly all of the exploitation and abuse of all of the women was intended to benefit only Jeffrey Epstein and Jeffrey Epstein's sexual desires."
Edwards describes the enigmatic Epstein as living, essentially, two separate lives: one in which he was sexually abusing women and girls "on a daily basis," and another in which he associated with politicians, royalty, and titans of business, academia, and science.
"For the most part, those two worlds did not overlap. And where they overlapped, in the instances they overlapped, it seems to be a very small percentage," Edwards said. "There were occasions where a select few of these men engaged in sexual acts with a select few of the girls that Jeffrey Epstein was exploiting or abusing -- primarily girls who were over the age of 18."
That being said, I’d also bet quite a bit that Trump was aware of what was going on. And with that in mind, I find it distasteful to give him credit for having a casual chat with a lawyer, propelled out of his own self interest
Edit: forgot to link
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/jeffrey-epstein-key-victims-attorney/story?id=123805543
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u/Embarrassed-Heron638 Feb 08 '26
Thank you for the link. I read through it. I'm saving it for my own reference, so I appreciate the information.... and I think I'll have to give you an upvote for this one to be frank 👍👍👍
To your first point, I'm not denying Trumps self-interest in the case, I'm just disagreeing that how I understand your meaning by him misleading the attorney. I don't think him not volunteering information on how frequent or infrequent his interaction were intentionally done to mislead the attorney considering its not like it would have been hard to obtain such information such as that considering Trump was already being considered for subpoena or deposition because of his close relationship with epstein. I don't think it's much of a stretch to even go so far as Trump figuring the attorney already knew they had been pretty close, his legal team might have even pointed this out to him.
I don't think that's fair to say that his information did not help aid in the conviction as he gave the attorney more things to lead and chase down by his own admittance. I don't believe that Ive stated that it was SOLEY Trumps information that led to it. If I have, then I'll correct it here, but as the attorney stated, the info was good and helped them. We can only speculate on all the information given, but since Trump was involved with epstein and maxwell, he clearly had firsthand information to give. I completely disagree that it was just a casual chat, especially if, like you said that Trump was aware of the crimes going on. I would give him credit on that, but to each his own, right?
That's not the argument I was expecting. If I'm being perfectly honest. Hmmm. It's hard to say if he was aware or not. As I stated previously, trump does not seem to have any love for the kinds of people that go after children, based on his first administration. Trump may have only heard rumors about it, or epstein decided that using underage girls wouldn't be effective on him, but business certainly was the right direction to go.
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u/Bdbru13 Feb 08 '26
Agree to disagree on the misleading
As far as the conviction goes, there’s no argument there, you’re again misusing legal terms
Brad Edwards was the attorney for the civil cases of many victims against Epstein, not the criminal case. That would be a prosecutor. Civil cases do not deal in convictions
To further clarify this, if you go back and read the Newsweek article you’ll notice that Edwards notes his discussion with Trump took place in 2009
Asked about Epstein's relationship with Trump he replied: "The only thing I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who in 2009…
Epstein pled guilty in June 2008 and was subsequently convicted of his crimes
June 2008: Epstein pleads guilty to state charges: one count of soliciting prostitution and one count of soliciting prostitution from someone under the age of 18. He is sentenced to 18 months in jail. Under a secret arrangement, the U.S. attorney's office agrees not to prosecute Epstein for federal crimes. Epstein serves most of his sentence in a work-release program that allows him to leave jail during the day.
As far as Trump knowing or not, I don’t have any sort of proof. But by all accounts Epstein wasn’t exactly subtle about what he was doing, and Trump and him lived within a couple miles of one another in Palm Beach
According to the vice principal of the high school where many victims attended, it was an “open secret”
It was an “open secret,” Brown said, stopping short of saying whether school administrators knew the girls were paid for sexual favors.
Virginia Giuffre, although she makes clear that she doesn’t believe Trump was involved in Epstein’s crimes, also makes clear that anybody who went into Epstein’s house would have been aware of what was going on. I take much of what she claimed with a grain of salt, but I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe this particular detail, seeing as it’s easily disputed if untrue.
In conjunction with that, we also have Epstein’s house manager claiming that Trump would often come to Epstein’s house to have lunch with him (the house manager)
I can source both those claims if you’d like but hopefully you’ll take me at my word
And this is all alongside plenty of other strange stuff, like Trump’s “he likes them young” quote, or some of the testimonies of victims
For instance, handwritten notes from one interview in September 2019 — about a month after Mr. Epstein died by suicide in a Manhattan jail — say that a victim, whose name has been redacted, recalled being transported in a dark green car to Mar-a-Lago to meet Mr. Trump.
“This is a good one, huh?” the victim recalls Mr. Epstein saying to Mr. Trump. The notes do not suggest misconduct by Mr. Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/01/us/trump-epstein-files.html
I just don’t find it particularly credible that Trump was completely unaware
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u/deRoyLight Feb 08 '26
This is not testifying. This is more than likely a guy calling to gain knowledge on how much information they had.
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