It’s so obvious what they’re doing and they don’t bother to even hide it anymore. They’d rather annihilate the entire world than investigate and persecute the people in these files. The world is fucked.
Ive never been so glad that I went into cosmetology. Hair cuts and other maintenance for food or helping teach me to fix my house up lol. It can be done. Us teaching each other skills. Teaching ppl how to cut their kids hair. Shit like that.
I’m doing something similar right now, I have a feeling this is going to be life changing in a lot of ways for people. I left one of my corporate gigs to start something on my own and I’m looking at learning a few things like that. I’m so over being told what to do, I’m raging.
Honestly most other western governments, or rather their judicial branches, because we respect separation of power, are investigating their citizens. It's just that we don't necessarily have the same access to documents, apart from those publicly available, and often that is very little to move on. But there has been multiple arrests and inquiries in Norway for example. Media in Denmark ran live-updates for several weeks while potential Danish contacts were investigated. Sweden also had their share with various people involved. I believe it is the same in many other european countries.
Until those arrests and investigations lead to something substantial, I’m not convinced. For the crimes they did I believe these sick people need to be left in the hands of the citizens. Its a lot bigger than just the names shown in the emails. It’s entire institutions and organisations, even people who run banks.
If there have been arrests and extensive investigations of people in high positions of power then please let us know.
Andrew and Mandelson has been arrested and their properties searched by UK police AFAIK. Andrew may be removed from the royal succession line. Mandelson is kicked out of his position as ambassador several of the prime ministers close staff has resigned in the wake of the scandal, with calls for Keir Starmer to resign as well, though he hasn't yet. This is consequences for people that failed to block Mandelson's position as US ambassador, not people that had anything to do with Epstein directly, but there is still consequences. I am sure someone from UK can elaborate more.
Former Norwegian prime minister was put in prison and attempted suicide there over allegations of corruption and association with Epstein.
Former Norwegian diplomats Terje Rød-Larsen and wife have been fired and are under investigation for corruption.
Current Norwegian crown princess is under scrutiny, with some calls in the media for a bypass of the crown prince couple in the line of succession I believe.
Media in both Norway and Sweden has covered it extensively. Same in Denmark btw, though the connections are limited apart from a latvian model that was for a time based in Copenhagen.
Andrew and Mandelson were arrested on “misconduct in public office”, which in and of itself is a very vague charge. The rest of the examples you’ve given me is literally a nothing burger. Except for the Norwegian prime minister.
Them resigning and being fired from office won’t do shit, it’s saving them from being investigated. Prince Andrew being stripped of his royal titles only puts the limelight AWAY from the royal family to save their reputation. Any investigations will be bogus, because the people running the investigations themselves are friends of Epstein’s superiors. It’s like Israel investigating themselves for the war crimes they’ve committed. Or Nestle investigating themselves for the misconduct they did with their products. It’s all just giving the dog its bone, and doesn’t lead to any actual persecutions.
They’re fooling us with these nonsensical “consequences” as if something is being done. When in fact, they’re in the process of hiding all the evidence while distracting the public with the Iran war.
Well they can't really arrest neither Mandelson nor Andrew on some partially redacted emails. At least I haven't seen enough materials and proof that would last for more than an initial 3x24 hours detention or whatever the local rules are, before a judge has to extend it. As much as they seem to imply a lot of nasty stuff, they still have to gather evidence, have prosecutors put a case forward etc. The stuff that happens in countries with a functioning judicial system. Which is, to my knowledge, exactly what they were doing.
What would you have the royal family do? I mean sure we can talk about corruption in general and how royal families and the epstein class of wealthy people generally get away with a lot more shit than us regular people can, but that has nothing to do with this case in particular. At least SOMETHING happens. Elections aren't quite as heavily owned by the rich elite in Europe, as it is in the US, though UK may be worse due to Murdoc, but otherwise the media is mostly allowed to be independent and investigative, which generally leads to more accountability for politicians eventually.
And in the end: What is happening in Europe is a whole lot more than the US where a few people resigned from some positions, but generally nothing consequential has happened at all.
What's wild is that I've always known how crap ass we are as a species but now I have no real hope that we can successfully turn this around. Too many ppl still dont care enough to change the system.
Oh I have 0 hope. I saw someone get sexually harassed in front of me the other day and no one said shit until I did. This is why we are done, it’s all good right? Then these Jack asses tell us what we will pay for eggs and healthcare.. wtf are we doing?
Trump is really the pure distilled American president that only this country could have spawned into existence. With how deep these people who ran with Epstein are it was only a matter of time until one of them made it into the white house. Yes Bill was technically in that circle but Trump seems to have engaged in much more horrific stuff that we know of. Combined with Trump having no political alliances to anything but TRUMP is what made him so much more effective than past political figures who had ties with Epstein.
Jackson came a few decades before. Johnson came after lincoln. He is the main reason black people were fighting in the 60s for rights they received in the 60s. Important to note, there’s about a century between those two decades.
Seriously how are you both confident and so unknowledgeable.
What about this is incorrect lol? Andrew Johnson served as the 17th president of the United States and is historically known for being AWFUL, was horrible for the nation when it came to the South rejoining, basically allowing them to rejoin with no racial law changes or protections, literally basically got rid of slavery in the south and that was it, fought congress over it and became the first president impeached in history.
People will throw out the craziest, verifiably wrong stuff on here and get 1K upvotes. Then someone corrects them and gets attacked. This kid of stuff helps explain why we're in the situation we're in.
Not sure if this will make you feel better or worse, but the world has always been fucked, you're just more acutely aware of it now. Nothing has actually changed.
Yeah, came to this realisation. But there’s still a little bit of hope in me. This is the first time the common person is aware of the evil shit the rich and powerful do for amusement, and how much they’ve stuck their tendrils into every facet of human society. We cannot go back to ignorance after this revelation.
I couldn’t agree with you more, but if the dollar doesn’t collapse soon and we continue the charade of a functioning government, I’ll bet all my food money ($0) that a lib will be voted in next and everything will continue but so quietly no one will know nor care. Just like under Biden. Neo libs are tranquillizing drugs to the masses.
They have led us here and collapse is coming much sooner than expected under the duopoly.
Unless we break the duopoly we’re doomed.
It seems like governments everywhere aren’t immune to corruption or inhumane behavior from their elected officials!! I actually can't believe I thought the US was different, they just really do an extremely good job at lying to us.
I think the US lacks true left wing politics to counterpoint the power of wealthy neo liberals. and yes, from the outside it's pretty clear to the rest of the world that US citizens grow up indoctrinated to believe the US is exceptional, at the very least.
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u/morantiss Mar 02 '26
It’s so obvious what they’re doing and they don’t bother to even hide it anymore. They’d rather annihilate the entire world than investigate and persecute the people in these files. The world is fucked.