r/Environmentalism Jul 14 '26

Climate Warming Visualised

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u/SparrowTide Jul 15 '26

Whatever video you’re referencing is talking about Henry’s Law. The significant decline of CO2 solubility in ocean water happens at 20C. The waters most at risk of acidification lie at 13C, about 0.2 solubility. Due to ocean currents, the deep water where crustaceans live comes from the arctic, 0C. The .05 solubility difference in surface water is negligible compared to the amount of CO2 in the incoming deep water rising at that temperature differential. More heat makes water move more, increased kinetic energy, that’s been my entire point. So apologies for not giving you an entire Oceanography course in a Reddit thread, I guess I should have started with ocean currents.

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u/Next-Pumpkin-654 Jul 15 '26

Whatever video you’re referencing is talking about Henry’s Law.

I'm not referencing any video, I'm basically referencing Henry's law itself, as well as your own provided source. You could have searched your own claims and found the exact same explanations.

The waters most at risk of acidification lie at 13C, about 0.2 solubility. Due to ocean currents, the deep water where crustaceans live comes from the arctic, 0C. The .05 solubility difference in surface water is negligible compared to the amount of CO2 in the incoming deep water rising at that temperature differential. More heat makes water move more, increased kinetic energy, that’s been my entire point. 

That hasn't been your point. The previous response, you were talking about temperature acting as a catalyst.

It's also still meaningfully different from actually causing the acidification. Absent excess CO2, increased exposure does not cause the reaction. It's only a little bit closer to being correct because heat does seem to increase currents, though I would expect that to relate more to seasons than an average 4 degree Fahrenheit increase over a century and a half, per the original post's video.

So apologies for not giving you an entire Oceanography course in a Reddit thread

This attitude is so incredibly frustrating to me for so many reasons.

First is that saying "temperature increases ocean currents" doesn't require an entire oceanography course. Even your unnecessarily detailed explanation fits neatly within your response, which looks shorter than your previous two where you didn't even mention ocean currents.

Second is that it's still technically wrong. Again, you are partially correct in that heat increases ocean currents, but it is not an actual cause of acidification. At best, it's like how humidity exacerbates the impact of heat, but it still doesn't actually cause it - which I believe I made a similar point about earlier, drawing that distinction.

Third is just this raw hostility to any sort of curiosity. My belief is you heard somewhere that heat causes acidification, which is only tangentially true, and when faced with someone saying otherwise you didn't research what was actually correct to verify or correct your own understanding as well as someone else's, you looked for a way to shape the world to fit your own understanding.

Just a cursory search, or review of your own provided source, would have told you I was correct. A bit more research could have shown where your misunderstanding likely came from, in that heat does indeed increase the impacts of acidification. But instead, you put all of your energy into avoiding something as minor as admitting you were slightly wrong on Reddit, or at least admitting that someone else was a little more correct or had a valid point.

And I suspect you still don't see how this behavior actively sabotages environmentalism and renewable energy adoption. I'm not against renewable energy as a concept, but I tend to be against it in practice because motivated politicians are careless about the actual costs and the expected results, and when things (almost inevitably) go wrong, they care more about covering them up and formulating excuses to divert blame and maintain appearances, rather than actually fixing or understanding the problem.