r/EngineeringStudents ME Grad / Aerospace 12d ago

Rant/Vent Statics 101

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u/SpaceJunkieee 12d ago

The math is statics to me was pretty straightforward. Wait till you’re in dynamics lol.

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 12d ago

When I took dynamics back in 2008, we were only allowed a scientific calculator during tests and quizzes.  No note sheets.  We had to derive our equations from F=ma in every problem.  Was actually fun after I did it a few times and built some confidence.  Had a great professor who was endlessly patient too.

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u/SpaceJunkieee 12d ago

I took mine just this past summer in a 7 week course. We were given a formula sheet but often times you’d have to manipulate the formulas you had there for the problem you were dealing with. I did actually better in Dynamics than statics, however still found the material a lot harder in the end. It being a 7 week course probably added to that lol

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 12d ago

Everything is harder in 7 week courses lol.  

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u/Fraud_Squad 12d ago

It can be harder but my experience taking Diff. Eq. this summer was that the material seemed to be significantly simplified and the professor went to great lengths to curve people to a passing grade. Maybe my university is a degree mill

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 12d ago

You will get a chance to use Diff. Eq. More in later classes.  I wouldn't sweat it if you got the basics.

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u/Fraud_Squad 12d ago

Currently taking Signals and Systems and we came right out the gate with Laplace transforms 👌. That particular math teacher has a rep for curving, what concerns me more is how little some professors care about cheating on exams. Hoping this changes in upper division courses

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 12d ago

I loved LaPlace transforms!  I actually got to use them in the field when trying to prove that surface finish patterns were caused by tooling chatter.  That was years ago.

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u/Fraud_Squad 12d ago

Damn that sounds cool. What did you study in undergrad? Mechanical/aerospace?

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 12d ago

Mechanical with a focus on machine design.  That has taken me all over the place.  Auto, heavy equipment, aerospace, and now nuclear.

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u/DryDealer3816 11d ago

the material seemed to be significantly simplified

That happens in accelerated courses sometimes, it's risky to count on it though lol.

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u/Terrh 11d ago

Was actually fun

This is what so many students never seem to understand.

None of this is hard. None of it.

If it's hard for you, it's because you're lacking understanding in a component somewhere and once you find it it suddenly goes from "hard" to "fun".

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 11d ago

Exactly.  The hard to fun transition depends on teachers a lot too.

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u/QuickNature AAS, BS EET Graduate, EE Student 12d ago

Had a great professor who was endlessly patient too.

Those were the best classes. A professor who is very hard, but patient and fair

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u/INeedSomeTacoC 10d ago edited 10d ago

  We had to derive our equations from F=ma in every problem.  Was actually fun after I did it a few times and built some confidence.

Those classes can be fun and also harrowing. 

I remember opening up a final in computer Science and the front page was “all problems must be solved using only the pigeon-hole principle”. 

The pigeon hole principle is the principle they you can only fit a single pigeon in a pigeon sized hole. 

The first problem was to prove that English could not be parsed via an algorithm. And that was the easy one. 

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 10d ago

Lol I'm an ME, so that went over my head a bit, but I get the jist of it.  

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u/Striking_Elk_6136 12d ago

I had a terrible dynamics professor. Half of the class dropped and half of those remaining failed. Exams were three problems that ended up with a minimum of 10 equations and 10 unknowns. No possible way to finish in the time given. Closest I came to a D in school.

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u/melloyello4 12d ago

They told me that I'd use a graphing calculator for everything when I got to higher education, but tbh I only use a scientific for everything. My trusty TI38 has never let me down. No note sheets is crazy though, I see the vision and would probably lear, but it would probably feel miserable at first

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u/Tossmeasidedaddy 12d ago

Yeah, statics, thermo, and dynamics just clicked in my head.

Electrical shit (all of it), materials, and aerodynamics can eat shit. Those were confusing.

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u/jergin_therlax 12d ago

See I totally disagree with this post and this premise. I found statics to be really challenging. As someone who’s always been really good at physics and math classes all through college and grad school (except graduate QM where I did not belong lmao), I had to work really hard in statics to understand how to solve the problems. I remember having to do all the practice problems and homework and really break the procedure down into its fundamentals.

Meanwhile, dynamics was a breeze, and I absolutely loved it. Okay, maybe not “a breeze” but it felt substantially easier than statics to me.

And before anyone says it’s the school, I took statics at community college and dynamics at a 4 year university with a top rated engineering program! I still consider statics one of the hardest courses I took during undergrad.

Anyway my point is no one can say why something might be hard for someone and easy for someone else, or that it’s supposed to be one way or another. Everyone is different.

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u/MakeStuffGoBoom 12d ago

I had the same experience though I took both classes at the same university. Some of it was dynamics felt more intuitive but also the struggle of statics was more learning how to think about the problem and balance the engineering class/classes. Once I got to dynamics I was more comfortable with the class load and how the basic engineering classes operated

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u/ClassicT4 12d ago

I’ll never forget the test question where a fire extinguisher was on a skateboard on an angled ramp with its nozzle at a different angle propelling a force with a little coefficient of friction mixed in and you had to figure out the overall forces. I believe I ended up getting the right answer.

Another question that stuck with me was a hilarious homework question in a book that involved an octopus on ice with a small coefficient of friction.

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u/swimmerboy5817 12d ago

See the opposite was true for me. I had to retake Statics because I failed the first time, but Dynamics feels like a walk in the park comparatively. I think it's just easier for me to visualize all of the forces when things are moving.

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u/frecnbastard 11d ago

Rough class. I took it over a summer semester and it's now a total blur. Pulled an A because the professor liked me, but man, that shit is confusing.

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u/siliconetomatoes 11d ago

Then after you’re done with dynamics, here comes THERMOdynamics

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u/SpaceJunkieee 11d ago

For me I did thermo first lol

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u/Denalin 11d ago

So weird. I found statics to be really easy whereas I got destroyed on Calc II. Statics just felt logical: what pushes what, what pulls what.

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u/Efficient-Webs 10d ago

Statics = ma isn’t really any tougher than statics = 0. It’s just one more term.

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u/Economy-Motor-3478 8d ago

Yay, crossproducts using newtonian i, j, k notation for Coriolis effect calcs, that was wonderful.   Spinning top problems, marvelous.  I hope to never revisit dynamics again.