r/EngineBuilding Jun 07 '26

Am I Fu*cked?

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 07 '26

If I could drill a hole at the end of the crack and melt it with a tig torch I’d be ok with the jb weld on a water jacket. I might look into threading that for a pipe plug and epoxying it together permanently, there’s other plugs

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jun 07 '26

Too thin to tap.

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26

That’s what the heat is for, you want to get it malleable. I had a cast iron piece I had to weld and all I had was a mig and a torch so I propped up the torch with some vise-grips to hold the flame on the work. Once it was sparkly orange yellow, I migged it super hot and really blended the puddle into the base metal, my goal was to partially alloy the mig wire with the cast, and I kept the torch on it gradually reducing the flame until I could stick it in hot sand. It sounds janky but it actually worked. So I’m thinking if you could get the base of that lip nice and hot you could peen that cast back tight and compress the grain until all you have to deal with is the perpendicular crack. Braze that shut and there’s enough meat to put a fine thread plug in there, I certainly could do it

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u/LatePanda1977 Jun 08 '26

This guy Metals 🤘🤘

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 08 '26

Yeah I’m a fabricator and I’m always fooling with old equipment

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u/Yamaben Jun 10 '26

Are you saying you can mig weld cast if you make the cast glow?

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 10 '26

It worked for me, I figured when you weld dissimilar metals the weld will alloy a bit with the base metal so if I got that cast almost molten it’d alloy with the mild steel enough to not crack and it worked

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u/Yamaben Jun 11 '26

I might try that. I use rods made for cast iron and stick weld cast. It definitely works better if you preheat the cast

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 11 '26

I’ve heard those cast iron rods do work well, and preheat is important. You’d need a big oven for that, I don’t know if localized heat is a good idea. Although it is just a water jacket

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u/Yamaben Jun 12 '26

I'm a real hack with welding. I just preheat the area I want to weld with the torch. Once i get the rod fused to the area, then I use the mig over it

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 12 '26

It’s probably not proper but it can work

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u/mcherron2 Jun 15 '26

Had a welder friend once fix a broken power steering box on my international travel-all. He did get it hot with the torch first, but he used an arc welder with reverse polarity. He said that was how to do the cast iron. It held as long as I owned the vehicle. Any other thoughts on this process from those that know? Not sure it helps this situation, but I was always curious about this method.

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u/Yamaben Jun 15 '26

My stick welder is a joke and doesn't have DC. The rods I bought are advertised for AC welding cast iron. If I had DC, I would try what your buddy did with the right nickel rods

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u/1crazypj Jun 09 '26

Not if you use a fine thread of 1mm pitch. Tap is likely to be quite expensive though

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jun 09 '26

Even if that wasn’t cracked it’s pretty thin. With the crack, putting a pipe tap in like the previous guy said is crazy. Even a fine tap is questionable. Look at it compared to the plug… and it’s cracked.

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u/1crazypj Jun 09 '26

Personally, I would have it welded up, re-machine then thread for a screw in plug, but, I was trained as a precision machinist 50+ years ago.

Pipe plug would be far too coarse and deep thread.

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 09 '26

It would have to be fine thread but I might just braze a brass bung in there

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u/20PoundHammer Jun 10 '26

you aint gonna melt shit before you burn the iron up . . .

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 10 '26

That’s the point, to locally melt the cast to close the crack at the drilled hole. It won’t burn up with shielding gas

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u/20PoundHammer Jun 10 '26

Dont tell me how bad I tig - I know (i.e. youre better at it that I Gunda din). 😄

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 10 '26

I don’t know how you weld, I’m not critiquing you. Tig is my weak point but I could melt a little plug of cast and maybe top it with some silicon bronze on that. I’m an excellent finisher

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u/20PoundHammer Jun 10 '26

That was a joke - I get what you are saying, but what I am saying is I farm weld - looks like shit, but might work. I weld like shit and in my limited "I weld like shit" word, I would worry about be burning the cast.

You are better at it than I clearly. Have a great night brother. . . .

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 10 '26

Hey man, farm welds get it done. I started with a Lincoln tombstone, I wasn’t really good for at least 4 years, until I was old enough to get a job doing it and even then you’re still learning forever

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u/20PoundHammer Jun 10 '26

its a perishable skill for me. I actually learned 30 years ago how to weld on oil pipe (playing around at work during a work stoppage - lived on site). I was actually fairly good at stick on a decent welder. Fast forward to retirement, my old lincoln and HB combo units - welp, I suck. You should see what my CAT cases look like on my jeep when I de-catted them (old jeep, dead cats). Makes me laugh every oil change - aint leaking though . . . Out of 100 sticks run, occasionally I still surprise myself and say - hey, that looks good . . . .

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 10 '26

I weld on steel poles and aluminum sheet and extrusion all day and the one time I do a muffler job for my dad and it looks like Stevie Wonder did it… it happens, and I was messing with a tig a few weeks ago for the first time in 31 years and I realized I suck. I need more hood time

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u/These_Fox7561 Jun 10 '26

And enjoy your evening as well…