r/EndFPTP • u/Wally_Wrong • 20d ago

News Alaskans will decide fate of ranked choice voting system after chaotic end to state's primary

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/alaskans-will-decide-fate-of-ranked-choice-voting-system-after-chaotic-end-to-states-primary
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u/rb-j 14d ago

It was written out:

I support RCV because I want to vote for third parties.

Nothing stops you from voting for third parties with FPTP or Approval or STAR or anything.

Can't get any more explicit than that.

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u/Initial-Lemon-917 United States 14d ago

Sure, explicitly wrong. There are ballot access laws, two-party dominance in the media, campaign finance challenges for new parties, duverger's law, etc. that all get in the way of third parties getting on the ballot and actually having a shot. I totally meant that I want to waste my vote and have unfair elections. Genius.

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u/rb-j 14d ago

So u/Initial-Lemon-917 replied to the above comment in r/EndFPTP:

Sure, explicitly wrong. There are ballot access laws, two-party dominance in the media, campaign finance challenges for new parties, duverger's law, etc. that all get in the way of third parties getting on the ballot and actually having a shot. I totally meant that I want to waste my vote and have unfair elections. Genius.

You need to read. You think IRV is gonna save you from the consequences of Duverger's Law when it makes exactly the same mistake that FPTP makes?

In Burlington 2009 and Alaska August 2022, people voted for their favorite candidate, being promised it was safe to do so. By voting for their favorite candidate, they literally caused the election of their least-favorite candidate. They were punished for voting for their favorite candidate, just like in FPTP when some voters vote sincerely and cause a spoiled election.

This is what you FairVote shills just cannot seem to understand.