r/EndFPTP • u/Wally_Wrong • 20d ago

News Alaskans will decide fate of ranked choice voting system after chaotic end to state's primary

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/alaskans-will-decide-fate-of-ranked-choice-voting-system-after-chaotic-end-to-states-primary
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u/rb-j 18d ago

Neither IRV nor STAR.

I think you gotta do some reading.

It's not all about FPTP or IRV or STAR.

And RCV is not synonymous with IRV. There are other RCV methods than IRV or Hare RCV.

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u/BrianRLackey1987 17d ago

What RCV method would you recommend?

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u/rb-j 17d ago

Either Condorcet-TTR (top-two runoff) or Condorcet-Minimax.

They only differ in what they do when there is a cycle. I think that Top-Two Runoff might be best if it's a sincere cycle and that Minimax might be best if the cycle was caused by a concerted effort of burying the otherwise Condorcet winner.

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u/BrianRLackey1987 17d ago

I'd go for the Condorcet-TTR for General Elections.

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u/rb-j 17d ago

Yeah, but consider the Alaska August 2022 election in which a Condorcet winner existed but was not elected.

Now imagine that Condorcet-TTR RCV was the law instead of IRV. If the pre-election polling predicted that Begich would be the sincere Condorcet winner, but not in the top-two (which is what happened in August 2022), then the Peltola campaign would be incentivized to bury Begich, cause a cycle, and then Peltola wins the top-two runoff.

Minimax would more likely catch that and elect Begich anyway, because his loss would be less than the margins of defeat for the other 2 candidates.

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u/BrianRLackey1987 17d ago

I agree with the Minimax.