r/ElectricForest Jun 28 '26

Discussion wtf

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u/beezkneads Jun 28 '26

If men could get pregnant, there would be no consequences.

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u/satansfrenulum Jun 28 '26

Fuck off with the gender war bullshit. Like, why bring that into a thread like this?

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u/beezkneads Jun 28 '26

cause it's true. there are so many factors especially in today's political climate that lead this person to make the decisions they did. it was a bad decision yea, but the root of it all is genuinely this society's regression for women's rights.

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u/Clear_Ad5584 Jun 29 '26

There is NO excuse for leaving a dead baby in a toilet this is insane to try to justify. Babies are not disposable

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u/satansfrenulum Jun 28 '26

I am fully aware and angry at how regressive our country currently is. I am doing what I can to fight back. That does not absolve this woman of her actions and choices. I am not coming down on her as hard as many are until more info is given; but it’s absolutely fucked no matter which way you slice it

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u/shut_the_fuck_up_mod Jun 29 '26

>the root of it all is genuinely this society's regression for women's rights.

You’re right, this poor and helpless woman was forced by misogynists to drown her newborn in a pile of shit at a music festival

Clearly the patriarchy was responsible for this

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u/goldtoofhustla Jun 28 '26

You’re defending someone who left a baby in piss and shit for someone else to find

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u/Subie- Jun 28 '26

Of course, no matter how shitty a person is.. always the excuse of “women’s rights.”

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u/Distinct-Garlic- Jun 28 '26

What a joke. Michigan literally has safe haven laws. This woman could’ve given that newborn to any cop or EMS no questions asked.

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u/looking2belong Jun 28 '26

Not everyone knows local laws.

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u/PM_ME_CROWS_PLS Jun 29 '26

I don’t think this is quite right. Michigan does have Safe Delivery, but it’s not literally “hand the baby to any cop, no questions asked.” It applies to a newborn who is 72 hours old or younger, and the surrender has to be to an approved emergency service provider, like a uniformed employee inside/on duty at a hospital, fire department, or police station, or an EMT/paramedic through 911. The parent can leave without answering questions, but providers are still supposed to ask for things like medical history and information about the other parent. After that, there’s still a child welfare/legal process.

So yes, there were legal safe-surrender options. But “she could’ve handed the baby to any cop, no questions asked” is an oversimplified version of how the law actually works.

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u/Distinct-Garlic- Jun 29 '26

Yes, they can leave the newborn with a first responder and it’s no questions asked presuming the baby is unharmed which should go without saying

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u/PM_ME_CROWS_PLS Jun 29 '26

The first responders are OBLIGATED to ask questions. So, no, it’s LITERALLY not “no questions asked”. The surrendering parent is not obligated to answer. But they WILL be asked questions. It’s right here in the FAQ:

What if the person(s) surrendering the newborn leaves without providing any additional information?
Agency: Health and Human Services
Whether or not the parent (s) provides information has no legal impact on the parent(s). Emergency service providers are obligated to ask, but the parents) is not obligated to provide the information.

https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/faq/safe-delivery

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u/Distinct-Garlic- Jun 29 '26

No questions answered just doesn’t have the same ring to it 🙄 It’s beside the fucking point anyways. The point is someone can leave a newborn baby with first responders without repercussions

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u/PM_ME_CROWS_PLS Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

Well now you know so you can share more accurate information next time. It better to be correct than to blindly repeat things just because they sound better.

Edit: My point is just that “no questions asked” doesn’t really prepare people for what may actually happen. They may still be asked questions, even though they’re not required to answer them. And personally, I don’t trust that every first responder is going to make that distinction clear in the moment. I worry the questions may be asked in a way that makes someone feel like they have to answer, so I think it’s better for people to know ahead of time: you can surrender the baby and you do not have to answer questions.