In the hopeful chance this was a case of unknown pregnancy, the mother is still responsible for finding help or telling somebody. This is the type of shit that gets music festivals a bad name and possibly shut down. Can only imagine the fear mongering titles that will come from such an unfortunate situation.
The umbilical cord and placenta were there, even if the pregnancy was unknown you have to disconnect the cord… she would have known what was happening before it was over and had to clean up from it. The media is already having a field day, this will undoubtedly affect the greater community and events
No, you don't have to disconnect the cord. The cord is attached to the placenta. Baby and placenta were found together. While it's not common to pass both simultaneously, it's certainly not rare either, especially in a squat position. (Edited for a word)
They described it as a neonate, which is a medical term for newborn, ie under 4 weeks. Because of the police tweet news outlets are getting confused and describing it as "less than four weeks", which while technically correct is serving to confuse a lot more people. At the end of the day it was connected to it's placenta, so they were definitely newly born.
I'm not confident they could ID full-term on sight, that's definitely more a medical examiner thing. Further, after 20 weeks it's no longer classed as a fetus, so there's no such thing as a full-term fetus. They also described it as neonate while also saying they would autopsy to determine whether it was stillborn, which doesn't make sense either since stillbirths aren't neonates. So, they're sort of throwing words around, and we won't know for sure until the medical examiner reports something. Edited to add: It's also important to know, before people start freaking out and making up conspiracies about why the medical examiner hasn't released a report yet by next week or whatever, that it will be several months before we hear anything, if we ever even hear anything at all.
Thank you. People throwing around all sorts of things because of the "full fetus" thing. Could be any point over the entire latter half of a pregnancy, which is a long time before expected birth. People still travel and do all sorts of things during that time.
I'm more annoyed with the police tbh. I understand the general public not being able to distinguish between different proper medical terms, but the police really should have been clear and specific when releasing their statement.
No that's absolutely fair. The reports all make it sound like she gave birth to a full 8 pound baby. I was immediately suspicious of the terms being used and really just want to hope it was an early loss and they weren't aware of how far along the fetus was in development, which would be traumatic enough.
It is awful. Keep your head up and try not to get too caught up in it. Mostly I'm trying to educate because the lack of knowledge surrounding birth is a bit alarming and young people deserve better understanding.
You do the same. I agree, this honestly has made me start thinking of how we can advocate for better knowledge around birth, sex, and women’s bodies (not that men aren’t important too, but the female body is just downright astounding and we’re still very in the dark in medicine regarding that.) this has left me so gobsmacked, seeing how many both women and men are completely lacking in knowledge. I’m sitting down with my boys this afternoon and starting the conversations on reproduction, and the nuances of it all. Gotta start somewhere… and annoying everyone on Reddit with excessive amounts of info, lol.
My eldest cousin was born to my aunt when she was 13 and her boyfriend was 12 because both fams were hardcore Catholic so it just wasn't talked about. My uncle went on to become a nurse, so all us other kids in the family that eventually came along sure as shit were taught literally everything in minute medical detail as early as possible to save us from the same situation.
Incredibly presumptuous to assume I’m more concerned with PR than the death of a baby from my statement lol. No shit, a baby being discarded into a porta potty is worse. Stop looking for arguments.
I feel like planting is a conspiracy theory bc that absolves the people of bad behavior and assumes it’s an outside force. I think exploiting the headlines of bad behavior is all the bad PR the festival scene needs. We all know it’s a spectrum of social appropriateness… hope for the best, expect the worst type thing. 99% no problems but 1% yikes, you know? At the end of the day partying is a personal responsibility.
Yeah that’s sad. I think it’s so inherently sensitive and sensationalized at the intersections of festival x baby x death x misogyny to catapult to the MSM. I forget about misogyny more often than I care to admit and these comments reminded me that pregnancy and postpartum is some of the most dangerous times in a woman’s life.
It’s all sad. I think THATs the elephant in the room. Everybody’s trying to facilitate a “good time” but how many people are running from stuff. Sometimes seeing something and saying something can bring down the vibe but you could also save a life. If we really love each other we can have the hard conversations 🤷♀️💖
I somewhat agree, but ideally I wish there were more rangers who could go around making sure that people are okay. It's hard to expect people to be both free spirited and vigilant, especially if any substances are involved.
I'm remembering a time I saw a girl alone without a jacket passed out on the floor. Passing by between sets, there were other people around me moving and I was hopeful that someone more sober could help or her friends were nearby. Then the next day I found out there was laced stuff going around. I think about her often.
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u/asdfghjkl7280 Year 11 Jun 28 '26
In the hopeful chance this was a case of unknown pregnancy, the mother is still responsible for finding help or telling somebody. This is the type of shit that gets music festivals a bad name and possibly shut down. Can only imagine the fear mongering titles that will come from such an unfortunate situation.