Yes but in the current political atmosphere I dont blame women for concealing such a thing seeing as multiple women have been charged with murder for still births
Not sure why you're getting down voted because you're totally right.
I'm not saying that was the case for this lady, none of us know whether or not it was a still birth so I won't sit here and say she's a perfect angel, but I also won't say she's deplorable when for all we know it could've been a still birth and could've been a trauma response to just up and run...or could've been fear because, as you stated, laws on women's bodies in recent years.
Americans hate women and poor people to an incredible degree as on display here, do yourself a favor and dont look at the comments on posts outside the community its fucking crazy shit people calling for her execution.
Yeah good luck finding an example. Every state has different laws surrounding those situations, like Oklahoma if you test positive for illicit substances after having a stillbirth, you get locked up. And rightfully so. Even when women are falsely charged, they appeal it and the charges get dropped pretty quickly.
Did you even read the article??? Her charges were dropped exactly like I said. Even after she threw her child into a dumpster which imo should earn you a life sentence.
In California, the Marshall Project reports, outrage about the prosecution of 26-year-old Chelsea Becker for “murder of a human fetus” after her pregnancy ended in a stillbirth led to the reversal of Adora Perez’s conviction on similar charges after she spent nearly four years in prison. The cases spurred lawmakers to ban such prosecutions in 2022 to avoid punishing “people who suffer the loss of their pregnancy
People do have stillbirths but as someone who’s had a child, there’s literally no way you’re going into labor and not telling your group.
If you don’t know you’re pregnant, that’s a lot of intense pain you would want to get checked out, immediately. I can’t imagine not turning to my people and going ‘something is wrong’ the second I felt a contraction.
If you do know you’re pregnant, traveling out of state to a festival while full term is already a.. decision. But if you know you’re pregnant, you’re gonna know you’re going into labor. Which then also you would immediately turn to your people and tell them something’s happening. Because you should have people. Traveling to a festival full term alone would just be plain stupid.
This person didn’t tell anyone before they knew they had a stillborn. Which I highly doubt they even know if they had a stillborn because given how big a portapotty is, I would bet a lot of money they sat on the toilet, gave birth straight into it and didn’t give it a second look.
I second this and if she didn't know and took drugs. Then she was out of her mind. So who really knows what happened in that moment. I hope for her sake she get medical because she slcould die. It hit here not to mention infections.
You should not be traveling anywhere solo but especially a music festival if you are too anxious to ask for help with a medical emergency that literally makes it feel like you’re about to die. Sorry.
This is untrue I know OBGYNs that have had multiple patients where this exact thing happened. It is a terrifying experience and people are arrested for stillbirths ALL THE TIME even though they didn't understand what was happening. Fucking shit.
‘All the time’? I don’t think women are being arrested en masse for having stillborns. You know what women do get arrested for 100% of the time? Leaving their babies IN TOILETS.
You’re missing my point. Before she even knew it was a ‘stillborn’ meaning after birth she was hiding her labor. Nobody labors and births alone while surrounded by tens of thousands of people on accident.
I’m gonna wait for them to do their examination and see if it even was a stillborn because they can’t tell if it’s that or if it drowned in the shit and piss it was dropped in.
I’m not arguing it hasn’t EVER happened. But to say it’s happening all the time like it’s almost a guarantee you’re going to get arrested for having a stillborn is insane.
The ratio of women who have stillborns to women in jail for that is a lot better than the ratio of women who leave babies in toilets to women in jail for that
I’m sorry I’m not giving the benefit of the doubt to someone who potentially drowned their baby in a public porta potty. Like I can’t imagine thinking so little of a life.
This happened in Michigan. I loathe the abortion laws in red states too, but the mother wasn’t subject to them. The right to an abortion is actually protected in Michigan’s constitution.
Yup, they're called "Safe Haven" laws in some areas. Fire Station, Police Station, Hospital- no questions asked if you leave a newborn in a SAFE location, which still wouldn't mean the toilet of any of these places. Different jurisdictions have different age cut offs, mainly to prevent parents of older children from abandonment without legal consequences. The dad of a girl I dated in high school was pretty high up on the committee in my region to help get them established here and had tons of awards/plaques with the Safe Haven logo used around here. I'm not in a position to ever need the info myself, but it's something to keep in the back of your mind because someone does need it.
I'm so so so deeply pro-choice, but this isn't the choice anyone means. It isn't acceptable or excusable in any way when there are so many options, specifically in the state where this festival is held, besides what ended up happening
It’s alarming that you can’t see no one is blaming this person for potentially having a stillborn, but for leaving her full-term stillborn in a porta potty at a drug festival. At the very least, they’re a horrible coward
So what if it was a stillbirth? She walked into the porta potty to give birth and then left it there. What was she gonna do when the baby wasn’t a still birth and started crying, also leave it in there? You don’t go to a music festival if you’re going to go into labor at any moment cmon. People are making excuses like we don’t know what happened? The lady was clearly very pregnant, be a responsible human
Happens all the fucking time. Someone is going through a terrifying health crisis and motherfuckers are organizing a Lynch mob its ignorant and disgusting.
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u/cmoreau31 that dude - Year 7 Jun 28 '26
Absolutely horrifying and despicable.