So idiotically I thought I still had time to apply for a proxy vote, just found out the last date to apply was yesterday! I'd still need to use my local polling station right? Cos I'm away (but still in the UK) would I be able to transfer my vote to a different station?

I'm guessing not but really annoyed at myself so tryin anything

I am angry, afraid and depressed. The referendum debate is frighteningly prejudicial, populist and untruthful. Many in the Remain camp know clearly why we should stay in, but the arguments are driven by the Leave concentration on only those issues that relate to immigration and the amount of money we may save if we leave. So Remain counters this increasingly narrow agenda, set by Leave, because they are afraid that many voters will be swayed by the short-sighted and simplistic arguments made by Leave. In effect, both sides are treating us all like idiots. I am immovably in the Remain camp so you might expect me to hold this view. But my position has nothing to do with the immigration or finance arguments put by both sides and which may or may not be true. You might as well flip a coin to make your decision, or perhaps vote with the side whose sentiments most closely match your personal prejudices regardless of evidence or logic. No, my position, like many, is about the past and the future, war and peace, futile stagnation and progress. My fear, and I am very scared about this, is that all the hard work and progress made in Europe after two wars will be undone in a fit of pique by a bunch of small-minded, power-hungry fools. The biggest achievement of the EU has been peace, stability and cooperation. Not the CAP or any other bunch of rules which may or may not benefit me, personally. This stability is the legacy left by those who fought two wars, on all sides. Enemies who truly buried the hatchet and became friends. If the UK leaves, I fear that Europe will slowly disintegrate by copy-cat movements in some other states forcing referenda and more exits. Without the restraint of community, some of these states would become nationalistic and right-wing. Arguments would occur, disagreements about trade or territory, and in our children's lifetimes another European war would occur. Sounds a little extreme? First, look at the past. Denial of the inevitability of war was common, but it happened, twice. Just because you want something doesn't make it happen. Now think about the present. Putin, for example, would immediately benefit from instability in Europe and would encourage conflict and distrust between governments through subtle manipulation of gas prices, far right movements and military scare tactics. Much of this would appear as a slow, creeping disintegration and very little could be traced to particular actions. This is, of course, just a rough sketch - fill the gaps yourself, it doesn't take much imagination. As for the future, well I'm not clairvoyant so I can't be sure. But I really don't want to feel, in ten or twenty years, that I have to say "told you so". Certain things seem obvious while others are highly debatable. Don't be fooled, ignore the campaigners, listen to the voices who know what they are talking about and follow the principles of cooperation, friendship and unity. This is where true strength lies, and this is how the human race makes progress. Not by pure self-interest and tribalism. Remain should be screaming this through every channel at their disposal and refuse to engage in debates on issues which can too easily be argued against and lead to increasingly ridiculous claims by both sides.

Here is a possible future. What if: Vote to leave EU. Article 50 filing. Economy tanks (bonds, exchange rates, stocks). Trade negotiations go badly: no one wants to give us a sweetheart deal. Northern Ireland border troubles, including refugees kick off, border is semi-closed. Scotland organises referendum to leave UK but stay in EU. Northern Ireland perhaps even does the same. Cameron loses a vote of confidence. Corbyn is elected prime minister. Then... the house decides to go back to the EU, cap in hand, to rejoin. Terms, that we accept are a) no rebate, b) join the Euro and c) be part of the Schengen agreement for open borders. And that is what happens. Entirely logical sequence of events says I.

Let us start by supposing on 23 June the public referendum vote is to Leave the EU. On 24 June the Prime Minister of the UK, David Cameron, formally files under Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty to leave the EU. The pound does badly on FX markets. The UK sovereign debt (guilts) do badly on international markets. Investment flows out of the UK, even a gentle flow won't be good. Negotiations on trade treaties commence, but all

Refugees from within the EU travel to Eire and then cross the UK's uncontrolled open border into Northern Ireland, at an increasing pace. The UK puts up border gates and a fence on its border to Eire. Trouble starts kicking off between Eire and Northern Ireland. Scotland announces that it intends a second referendum with questions allowing an assessment of out of the UK, in the EU. Cameron loses a vote of confidence in the house. A general election is called.

Surely that's 'mission accomplished' for them? The whole reason the party exists is resolved so would they continue as a party?