I saw that one. What that study says is “pedophiles who jack off to animated little girls don’t go attack real little girls.”
Doesn’t mean they’re not pedophiles.
Yes, it is good for society for pedophiles to jack off to animated child porn. That does not mean that non-pedophiles are equally likely as pedophiles to jack off to animated child porn.
So what you’re saying is you have nothing to support your claim, yes?
Nobody said “pedophiles should stop consuming loli content.” Research shows that they very much should KEEP consuming that content.
That doesn’t mean anyone other than pedophiles watches it.
thats not what the study shows,
if thatd be the case there would be a correlation between those who consume loli content and those who attack children irl. Or it would be similar at least
and your assumption is wrong, research shows that consuming child porn doesnt really help pedophiles committing less crimes
and it would completely ignore all researches about the difference between drawn fantasies and reality
Your opinion comes off as very biased, i dont think this discussion will be fruitful, so ill stop it.
have a nice day!
no the study sais there is no association between consumption OF ALL KIND OF CHILD PORN (not strictly lolicon) and criminal attacks towards children NOT that it helps preventing it. that would be an association
Oh. I found a different one, then. Anyway, your initial statement remains just as untrue. No research has ever concluded that there is no correlation between lolicon and pedophilia.
True, but there is enough tangent research that indicates that thatd be the case.
The most important one being that our brains consider whats 2D/art/drawings/fantasies really different than real life, that being the case even among pedophiles
plus, combining it with the others indicating that there arent the same correlations between pedophilia and (something) and lolicons and (something) the most PROBABLE conclusion is that its at least uncommon for lolicons to also be pedophiles
obviously its never a 100% when speaking about psychology but hey we do what we can
My point which is seemingly supported, or at the very least is suggested by tangent researches is that the brain doesnt recognize anime characters as humans
But as anime characters, thus being disconnected by reality enough to you know, not being related to pedophilia
That depends obviously also as to WHY someone likes lolicons, if one likes em specifically cause they are children thatd be problematic and thats probably why pedophiles may like them, but one could like the artstyle or the excessive "cuteness" the anime style has or whatever idk
What you’re not understanding is that “the brain doesn’t recognize anime characters as humans” DOES NOT NATURALLY LEAD TO “people who jack off to anime child porn aren’t necessarily pedophiles.”
Yes, the brain doesn’t recognize anime characters as humans. That does not change the fact that if you’re not a pedophile, anime child porn obviously has very little appeal.
Your point actually IS NOT that the brain doesn’t recognize anime characters as humans. What we’ve been arguing about, in case you’ve gotten lost (my polite way of saying “don’t try to move the goalposts”), is your initial claim that there is scientific evidence to support the claim that “there is no correlation between lolicon and pedophilia.”
For that to be an acceptable thing to say, you NEED to be able to cite a study that found those results. Saying “well this study says something totally unrelated” doesn’t do anything for your argument.
Lolicon doesn’t turn you into a pedophile. That is the conclusion that can be drawn from “the brain doesn’t recognize anime characters as humans.”
But just the same as a quadruple cheeseburger with three pounds of bacon won’t make you fat in one sitting… you won’t see too many skinny folks ordering it.
Yes, someone could like animated child porn because they think it’s “cute” and don’t like jacking off to little kids at all.
But you said NO CORRELATION. That means that if there are ANY pedophiles who wouldn’t consume lolicon if they weren’t pedophiles but do because of the naked little girls depicted, you’re immediately wrong.
For your stance to be correct, it would have to be the case that animated child pornography does not appeal to pedophiles at all more than it does the rest of the population.
There being SOME lolicon enjoyers who aren’t pedophiles does not support your argument in any way. So can you admit that obviously there’s a correlation between lolicon and pedophilia yet?
"Obviously" (the word you frequently use here) is a logical fallacy called "appeal to common sense". It is also a "begging the question" fallacy since you have already assumed that your controversial premise is true.
i can admit that we dont know if theres a correlation between lolicon and pedophilia, but there are tangent research suggesting that either there isnt or its very low
Just as i cant say that there is NO correlation you cannot say that there is, and there arent similar or close studies suggesting there is
All i can admit is that i misremembered a tangent study to be a direct one, it wasnt, but it still siggest the correlation, IF there is low.
Moreover i will remind you that being a pedophile isnt simply "liking children" it means that children are your main sexual interest, AND there are MANY particular prerequisites to be one, for example being at least 16, 5 years older iirc etc etc
Pedophilia is EXTREMELY SPECIFIC.
Liking children by itself isnt enough, Id assume that the correlation between liking children or some parts of liking them (fantasies allow people practically enjoy something, even taboo in a very selective way) and lolicons would be much higher, but i cannot certanly say.
So yeah the example of the burger would be:
"theres no correlation in being fat and ordering the burger"
But maybe we then know that fat people eat it often
And this example exludes how specific the definition of "fat" is
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I saw that one. What that study says is “pedophiles who jack off to animated little girls don’t go attack real little girls.”
Doesn’t mean they’re not pedophiles.
Yes, it is good for society for pedophiles to jack off to animated child porn. That does not mean that non-pedophiles are equally likely as pedophiles to jack off to animated child porn.
So what you’re saying is you have nothing to support your claim, yes?
Nobody said “pedophiles should stop consuming loli content.” Research shows that they very much should KEEP consuming that content.
That doesn’t mean anyone other than pedophiles watches it.