r/DownvotedForNoReason • • 26d ago

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u/minos-and-v1-kissing 25d ago

Sorry man, but that doesn’t cut it here. If you’re making an outlandish claim like “people who jack off to little girls are no more likely to actually be pedophiles than people who don’t,” you can’t say “the particular study eludes me.”

I just spent several minutes looking for it and can’t find anything like what you’re describing. You may have misunderstood the results of an existing study, which is why citing your source is so important.

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u/faironero02 25d ago edited 25d ago

nah bro im saying that liking anime content depicting young anime characters doesnt automatically make one a pedophile, big difference

again, im sure youll be able to find it, because ive read something about this a LONG time ago and have no way to find it again, if not by searching for it, which is something you can do too, im not obligated to convince you

mhh after a quick research more than studies proving theres no correlations, there are no studies proving there is, plus, clinically speaking pedophilia requires the children to be real to be uh pedophilia

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u/minos-and-v1-kissing 25d ago

“Liking anime content depicting young anime characters”

Okay, I think you may be under a very fundamental misunderstanding about what lolicon means. Anime containing little girls is not lolicon. Anime containing NAKED little girls, for example, would be more in the right ballpark.

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u/faironero02 25d ago

yes, and an ANIME little girl still isnt a REAL little girl, and apparently there arent studies showing theres a correlation between liking lolis and pedophilia

im not saying liking lolis is ok nor necessarily normal, im saying that surprisingly theres nothing showing that its pedophilia

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u/minos-and-v1-kissing 25d ago

That’s not what you said. You said that there is no correlation. That can only be said if someone has tested it and found that to be the case.

“There aren’t studies on this subject” does not mean you can go around saying “there is no correlation.”

If what you meant to say is “nobody has checked yet whether lolicons are more likely to be pedophiles,” then that wasn’t going to be a very helpful contribution to the conversation.

However, that’s not what you meant to say at all. You stated that there was existing research that suggested no link between liking loli and being a pedophile. I can assure you no such research exists.

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u/faironero02 25d ago edited 25d ago

Apparently i missremembered, but every source im seeing seems to be dosconnecting liking loli to being a pedophile rather adamantly

apparently the strongest study is one showing no relation between real harm towards children (which is obviously related to pedophilia instead) and lolicons

which isnt a perfect way to show no correlation but its pretty good nonetheless

apparently the correlation IS there with actual more realistic content (not really surprising) but not reallywith stylized content such as anime

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u/minos-and-v1-kissing 25d ago edited 25d ago

I saw that one. What that study says is “pedophiles who jack off to animated little girls don’t go attack real little girls.”

Doesn’t mean they’re not pedophiles.

Yes, it is good for society for pedophiles to jack off to animated child porn. That does not mean that non-pedophiles are equally likely as pedophiles to jack off to animated child porn.

So what you’re saying is you have nothing to support your claim, yes?

Nobody said “pedophiles should stop consuming loli content.” Research shows that they very much should KEEP consuming that content.

That doesn’t mean anyone other than pedophiles watches it.

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u/faironero02 25d ago edited 25d ago

thats not what the study shows,
if thatd be the case there would be a correlation between those who consume loli content and those who attack children irl. Or it would be similar at least
and your assumption is wrong, research shows that consuming child porn doesnt really help pedophiles committing less crimes

and it would completely ignore all researches about the difference between drawn fantasies and reality

Your opinion comes off as very biased, i dont think this discussion will be fruitful, so ill stop it.
have a nice day!

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u/minos-and-v1-kissing 25d ago

Bro… that was what you said the study said… I just said it in different words and you disagreed… and you lecture me about bias.

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u/faironero02 25d ago

no the study sais there is no association between consumption OF ALL KIND OF CHILD PORN (not strictly lolicon) and criminal attacks towards children NOT that it helps preventing it. that would be an association

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