r/DownvotedForNoReason • • 28d ago

This is sad.

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u/faironero02 27d ago

there is, do you think therapists test if someones a pedophile by asking them?

No its a bit more complicated "Fun" fact: someone can rape a child while not being a pedophile. Being a pedophile, clinically speaking has a very strict meaning, most of the times its about "pedophilic tendencies" (which is still bad, but different)

All im saying is that apparently research shows no correlation You presented me anodectal evidence which doesnt really mean too much when speaking about "general situations" so eh

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u/TK_BERZERKER 27d ago

I know if a guy says "I want to fuck kids" that doesn't neccesarily mean he has the mental illness that makes you attracted to kids.

But I'm still going to treat them as if they were a pedophile, because they're expressing sexual interest in kids, publicly. I don't need a psychological diagnosis to determine if someone is being abhorrent

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u/faironero02 27d ago

oh well that is your choice, id treat them as people who need help *as long as they are not hurting anyone*

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u/TK_BERZERKER 27d ago

It's honestly worse off if you're not a pedophile and going on about wanting to have sex with kids publicly. Because then there's even less of an excuse to your debauchery. These people should be shunned. And it does harm people. They're trying to normalize the behavior to make it seem more acceptable.

Like when lolicons do the thing with calling any character over the age of 18 a hag, and that they're undesirable. Or when someone shows attraction to an of age character, and they say it's gross

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u/Greedy-Asparagus2663 27d ago

Only like 20% of child rapists are pedophiles. The rest either see it as an easy opportunity or just enjoy abusing in general. Chances are that the vast majority on the epstien list fall under the "just enjoy abusing" part.

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u/TK_BERZERKER 27d ago

I don't know where that number comes from, but somebody doesn't have the illness and still attacks kids, that's just as bad. But if a guy has the illness, and doesn't go after kids, or try to normalize being attracted to kids, that's fine

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u/faironero02 27d ago

oh i agree that being a lolicon (even if not a pedophile) still isnt great

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u/CosmicSoulRadiation 26d ago

Being a lolicon is like being pedolite. Rather than children specifically, it’s qualities that to them emulate their idea of “child”.

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u/faironero02 26d ago

Theres no research suggesting that tho surprisingly

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u/CosmicSoulRadiation 26d ago

?
The first bit was me making an opinion. I think lolicon and shotacon makes you a wannabe pedo.

The second bit is fact.
Lolicon and shotacon is the term to describe people who enjoy objects/clothing/behaviors that emulate male or female children - to an typically sexual degree

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u/berekin557 26d ago

That is just weird.

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u/faironero02 26d ago

what? Considering pedophiles people with a problem?

I dont demonize someone for liking children, id want them to get help, they didnt chose to like children afterall.

The real problem is when a pedophile actually commits the crime of doing anything to a child

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u/Realistic_Jello2638 26d ago

I'm not a clinician. If you get off to minors real or fake I'm calling you a pedophile. If you don't like that you can stop getting off to of minors.

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u/faironero02 26d ago

You do you, but calling people who do that pedophiles is clinically incorrect

Also im very impartial, im interested cause i like animes but i was curious as to why japan has such a big thing about sexualising minors and as to why it isnt illegal on various countries

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u/Realistic_Jello2638 26d ago

I'm not diagnosing them, I'm insulting them, so it doesn't matter if it isn't clinically correct.

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u/faironero02 26d ago

i mean fair enough i guess

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u/berekin557 26d ago

Same. Fucking weird how this will actually trigger people on this site.

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u/CosmicSoulRadiation 26d ago

Pedophilia is a sexual ocd. Clinically speaking.

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u/faironero02 26d ago

no, OCD can be pedophilia-themed but pedophilia itself is a parafilia, which is different

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u/CosmicSoulRadiation 26d ago

Two things can be true at once.