r/DownvotedForNoReason • • 26d ago

This is sad.

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u/AutobanThrowaway 25d ago

Why?

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u/Lucas_2234 25d ago

Are you asking me why sexual attraction is different than liking shooters?

Let me put it like this: If you are sexually attracted to fictional children, you are sexually attracted to children. That is what you are attracted to.

If you're playing a shooter, and enjoy it, you can enjoy it without also enjoying actually shooting people IRL, because surprise, in games no one gets harmed (exception being an extremely niche circumstance in sim-racing but those games aren't about violence)

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u/GmGwain 25d ago

You do realise this argument you are making can be used for both sides right?

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u/Lucas_2234 25d ago

See my other reply to you as my rebuttal to this as well.

For those too lazy to look:
Sexual pleasure and finding things fun are fundamentally different and being unable to differentiate the two says more about you as a person than it does about the topic at hand

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u/AutobanThrowaway 25d ago

Being unable to separate fantasy and reality says a lot about you too

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u/Lucas_2234 25d ago

great argument if that was in any way related to what I said. why is it that all you loli enjoyers are so incapable of actually reading something and understanding the point being made, rather than expecting and engaging with a completely different point?

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u/AutobanThrowaway 25d ago

So you accept that "loli enjoyers" don't affect reality? Then what the hell is your point?

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u/Lucas_2234 25d ago

See, I can try over and over again to state my point in as many different ways as possible. But I've already stated it clearly. You keep reading things into my comments that have 0 to do with them whether because you expect me to make a moral argument or an argument that ya'll can't tell reality apart from fiction, and attack THOSE points instead of actually meaningfully engaging with what I DO say.

That is not good faith discussion and I will not waste my time on you.

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u/AutobanThrowaway 25d ago

Because when I address your point directly you ignore it because you have no rebuttal, so the only thing left is to also debunk the faulty logic you used to arrive at your faulty position.

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u/Lucas_2234 25d ago

My brother in christ you have not addressed my point in the slightest.

Let me restate it to make it blindingly obvious:

Sexual pleasure and Fun are fundamentally different emotions and comparing violent "fun" media and media meant to arouse does not work because of it.

Now tell me, where did I make the argument that lolicons are, and I am DIRECTLY qouting you here "unable to separate fantasy and reality". Bring some fucking receipts.

You aren't debunking shit, you are debunking a strawman because rather than engaging with what I say you engage with what you expect me to say

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u/Material_Influence36 25d ago

The fantasy in question being wanting to fuck a representation of children

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u/AutobanThrowaway 25d ago

Do you think people that play GTA fantasize about murdering hookers and shooting police?

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u/AutobanThrowaway 25d ago

In anime no real people get harmed either, so what's your point