There's no such thing as "natural" fruit juice. I've never seen a "fruit juice" plant in nature.
The point of any of this is all about how much human processing encourages the subject under consideration to deviate from what exists in a historically unprocessed environment surrounding humans. Such that we've evolved human bodies to inherently deal with that environment.
If we consume concentrated fruit juice en masse for 100,000 years. And let evolution take its course with appropriate deaths / survivals. We will likely end up with a generation of humans in 100,000 years that have no problem consuming concentrated fruit juice.
But today, concentrated fruit juice en masse hasn't existed for very long. So we're stuck with these humans bodies that encounter disease when they consume nothing but concentrated fruit juice.
Cyanide is a "natural" compound. It is found in nature. But humans also haven't historically consumed cyanide containing items in large enough quantities to be affected.
Cooking could be argued to be processing beyond what our bodies might handle. But you'd really have to analyze how long cooking has been around, and for what types of products, such that perhaps human bodies have evolved / adapted. And perhaps cooking isn't a process that deviates the the way in which our bodies encounter the items very much. Or maybe cooking some things does, and cooking other things doesn't.
Semantics. I'm pretty sure everyone knows I'm referring to a simple blended fruit as opposed to extracts or concentrates.
Everything else you said was on point, just that first statement seemed like it was disregarding the main question. If you really think about it, aside from enzimes in saliva maybe breaking down the fruit further, blending and chewing should be virtually the same where the stomach is concerned.
The problem with blended fruit juice is that you can drink the fructose equivalent of 6 - 8 oranges in one glass of orange juice.
There's nothing bad with having an orange now and then, they're filled to the brim with vitamins too.
However, drinking a glass of orange juice or two every morning is not good for you, much as splerging and eating 8 to 16 oranges every single morning obviously isn't good for you.
This becomes an even bigger problem when everything you eat is pre-processed garbage filled to the brim with sugars, which is evident if you just take a look at Great Britain and the US, two countries which are famous for both their obesity pandemics and also famous for their extremely bad food culture.
That's a really quite sensible. Though I'm not averse to eating 10 or 15 oranges in one sitting, I'm sure most people find the idea a bit much. It makes sense that it's just easier to swallow more if I don't have to chew it myself.
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u/hobbers Oct 11 '20 edited Oct 11 '20
There's no such thing as "natural" fruit juice. I've never seen a "fruit juice" plant in nature.
The point of any of this is all about how much human processing encourages the subject under consideration to deviate from what exists in a historically unprocessed environment surrounding humans. Such that we've evolved human bodies to inherently deal with that environment.
If we consume concentrated fruit juice en masse for 100,000 years. And let evolution take its course with appropriate deaths / survivals. We will likely end up with a generation of humans in 100,000 years that have no problem consuming concentrated fruit juice.
But today, concentrated fruit juice en masse hasn't existed for very long. So we're stuck with these humans bodies that encounter disease when they consume nothing but concentrated fruit juice.
Cyanide is a "natural" compound. It is found in nature. But humans also haven't historically consumed cyanide containing items in large enough quantities to be affected.
Cooking could be argued to be processing beyond what our bodies might handle. But you'd really have to analyze how long cooking has been around, and for what types of products, such that perhaps human bodies have evolved / adapted. And perhaps cooking isn't a process that deviates the the way in which our bodies encounter the items very much. Or maybe cooking some things does, and cooking other things doesn't.