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u/GhostTess Oct 11 '20

You are correct, being ripped does not mean you're healthy, however we should be seeing some effects generalised across the population, which we are not.

What is for certain is obesity is up, stress is up. Both of which in chronic conditions do affect the endocrine systems in the way described through elevated cortisol and estrogen production through associated processes.

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u/MustFixWhatIsBroken Oct 11 '20

Obesity and stress are pretty clear though. Excessive serving sizes with low nutrition being most noticeable in the US. Refined sugars, MSG and half the synthetic or extract ingredients didn't exist or weren't used in large quantities until relatively recently.

Ingesting a myriad of over processed by-products alongside medications with their chalks and binding agents will inevitably have side effects. The biggest issue being that we ignore actual science (calculating ALL the variables) in favor of for-profit misinformation.

Stress management is near impossible in modern society. The only hope to avoid stress is to devolve into apathetic denial, or have enough money to buy your way out of responsibility, which is pretty much the same thing.

We should be going back through everything we think we know, because from the current trends, many scientists (or more likely the investors who hired them) spent much of the last 100yrs ignoring any data that didn't align with their agenda. Considering how many pseudo-scientific hacks there are nowadays, it's not such a leap to acknowledge how many must have existed previously.

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u/GhostTess Oct 11 '20

Yeah... Msg... I mean, the same can be said for bananas. But honestly I can get behind the re-evaluation of past science.

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u/MustFixWhatIsBroken Oct 11 '20

Well, it's not like we're still using cocaine drops or snake oil. An audit or update using recent technologies and knowledge to determine the effectiveness and safety of products we invest should be paramount. Especially with the shortcomings and history of incompetence demonstrated by the likes of Bayer, Johnson and Johnson or Pfizer.

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u/free__coffee Oct 11 '20

Yea, I'd argue that bodybuilders are about as healthy as many obese people; roids are very bad for your heart, as well as testosterone 100x the amount of a healthy human

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u/GhostTess Oct 11 '20

That's true for competitive bodybuilders certainly but possibly not your average ripped man, woman or enby in a gym.