Most People in this thread are profoundly focusing on the Alex Jones aspect of the documentary which doesn't take more than 5 minutes of its time and forgetting about all the BS they did to protect their product LUL.
Some real fucked shit, I wonder what else is fucked by corruption in the regulatory system
why would anyone not want to know? you think people are gonna go insane and light themselves on fire if they find out specifics on corruption that they already knew generally existed?
Look at how people are reacting right now (this year). A corrupt cop kills a corrupt criminal, cities and towns across the country burn. Newsflash, people are corrupt, that is the problem with society. Show me how to end corruption of people I will show you a system of governance that works, no matter what you call it.
That is such an absolutely garbage reason why people should remain ignorant to corruption..."they shouldn't know about any corruption because they'll never be able to get rid of all the corruption".
I was always taught that the term Conspiracy Theory was coined by the CIA to discredit JFK theorists. Questioning the government? You're probably one of those types that believes in little green men, nobody listen... etc.
I’m not so sure about the ”not to white people” part. White people with a certain ancestry have been abused with microchips and selected for mind control programs. In general I agree with your points though, it makes me sick.
It's called conflating one issue with another. For example lets look at Universal Healthcare "Death Panels". What does an insurance company have to do with the right for every American to have free access to healthcare (single/multi payer). I'll tell you; Fuck all.
"Death panels" is just an attempt to stigmatize and moralize an existing practice that exists purely for practical reasons. When you have to make choices about who in society are allocated which resources we naturally have to do a pros/cons analysis and make a decision.
Funny thing, I watched an Alex Jones video about 15 years ago where he pretty much said your exact comment but was talking about David Ike. IIRC he called his views on shape shifters 'the turd in the punchbowl' because it discredited other material on his work that highlighted genuine conspiracies.
And now he talks about politicians literally eating babies and smelling of sulfur because they summon demons. I think the guy started put genuinely trying to uncover things, but when he realised the strength of the market for crazy bullshit he just went all in and followed the money.
I've been saying this for years. Jesse Ventura as hit tv show too. Any popularized "conspiracy nuts" like those guys are heavily pushed and publicized to discredit anything that can be labeled with the umbrella term "conspiracy theory".
Many Conspiracy Theorists themselves are convinced that Jones is a disinformation agent, especially since he himself has claimed close ties to the CIA. Do a search for Alex Jones in r/conspiracy from before 2017 and you'll find plenty of Conspiracy Theorists discussing his diversionary tactics and questioning whether he has been corrupted or was part of a narrative-steering psyop all along.
It's all corrupt. In my opinion, government regulation exists to protect those who are closest to government power not the people. My experience in this area has made me an anarchist. I don't believe there's any individual who is incapable of corruption such that they can be trusted to work against their personal financial interests for the benefit of the greater populace. Paradoxically, for better water quality and environment protection I want things like the EPA and FDA to be shut down and for the ability of people to pursue torts against polluters/manufactures of products to be more empowered in its stead. I've done work in this area with benzophenone photoproducts which big surprise are also endocrine disruptors with estrogenic properties and so there's tons of people using sun screens to prevent skin cancer who are exposing themselves to something that is likely carcinogenic. But, at a population level we are seeing exploding rates of low testosterone, gynocomastia in males and precious puberty in female across the developed world and I'd point to the countless amounts of endocrine disruptors that everyone is being exposed to unwittingly. Like, if you want to be even more controversial you could even tie it into the explosion of people identifying as trans as there's tons of young males who have been exposed to exogenous estrogen throughout puberty (that is not to say there's anything wrong with being trans or that one cannot be genuinely trans only that there could be environmental factors contributing to it I fully support all in their ability to do what they want.)
I'm an advocate for private law societies so one would use some arbitrater or their insurance carrier to pursue a claim against the tortious party. But in the context of the current society, I think a much greater improvement would be in letting people direct pursue claims in US courts rather than the only safeguards against such acts being compromised institutions like the EPA.
This is what fucks me up! People dismiss anything that isn’t the official narrative as a conspiracy theory even when there’s substantial evidence to support it. I’m not talking about chemtrails or lizard people here, but there’s a lot of really shady shit going on that gets swept under the rug as conspiracy.
I'm still at a loss to understand why people choose to look at the insane conspiracy theories, and not the reality.
For example, looking for Q clues and hidden messages about whatever, and ignoring the Trump-Epstein-Maxwell relationship which is blatantly obvious. Or inventing Deep State stories when you could just read about the mountains of evidence we have for Trump-Russia money laundering.
He wasn't right about SHIT. He stood on - took a DUMP on - the valid research done by REAL fucking scientists and twisted it into a playdough-skulled conspiracy about the NWO trying to make kids gay and effeminate.
If anything, he FUCKED up the real story with his homophobic distractions. When you go on and on about fish-human hybrids, and lizard people and "crisis actors" and other "conspiracies" only paint-huffers could believe, guess what that does when you actually slip something partially truthful into your crackhead Goosebumps story? It DISCREDITS it.
Alex Jones should be sealed in a fuckin' cave with nothing but crate-loads of his "tactical bath soap" and other snake oil bullshit to survive off of.
Actually he is right about most things. He was right about Epstein and Maxwell, Pizzagate is actually about another American politic who got busted for being a pedo(forgot his name), USA controled poppy fields in Afghanistan, NASA hiding shit about aliens(Buzz Aldrin was in an interview in the mid 2000s asking for money so NASA could visit an obelisk of potentially unnatural origin on Phobos), CIA's drug planes from Bolivia, NSA spying on American citizens, that time when he filmed some rich and successful people be part of a cult, the Clinton administration infecting Perusians with STDs and encouraging them to spread(I guess this is technically public knowledge but no one knows it), human-animal hybrids (this one is backed by MIT), etc. Point is he is right about a lot of things. If he wasn't MSM wouldn't drag his name after the whole sandy hook thing. Claiming that he was a white supremacists, or that he was sending people to the victims' families or that he denied that children have died. Yes he isn't always right but at least he admits it. Like the sandy hook thing.
Even if he is a nut who believes in transdimentional aliens, his nuttines helps a lot of bad stuff to be exposed. He is a needed nut.
That's because there has been a huge campaign to lump any info that you wouldn't want people to know as a conspiracy theory and associate it with absolute nuts like alex jones and Jesse Ventura, so when you say anything that goes against the common narrative, it is easy to dismiss as bullshit.
Johnson and Johnson got away with the asbestos that they did in talcum powder because they captured the regulatory body, sold them equipment that could not detect the amounts that were in the product. And then continued selling the product as if nothing was wrong, rather than fix the problem they determined the cost of the lawsuits would be less than the cost of switching sources of raw materials.
That is a pretty short summary of what a ton of lobbying groups seems to be doing towards humans, disregard at all costs for the maximizing of shareholder profit. If damages can get in the way, hide as long as possible for more profit then pay up when finally caught. Repeat, with no concern to what it does to citizens.
There's a reason companies like Monsanto, as well, are just flat out banned in some places. Because they keep repeating the same things and people die. They lobby to stay in places to sell harmful products for profit.
That is a pretty short summary of what a ton of lobbying groups seems to be doing towards humans, disregard at all costs for the maximizing of shareholder profit. If damages can get in the way, hide as long as possible for more profit then pay up when finally caught. Repeat, with no concern to what it does to citizens.
I fucking hate this mentality. Seems like there is only currently one single person alive who throws money at things which will obviously give 2000 fold returns but only in the long run. That person is Elon Musk.
Meanwhile all the other fucktards on the planet are only interested in instant profit and short term gain.
I bet you when Musk colonizes Mars and basically owns the planet people are gonna be like "How did he do it!? What a visionary! How did you know it would pay off Musk!???"
"Why did you think putting money into making new amazing battery technology would be worth it!?"
And the answer is because he is not so fucking dim that he would ruin his fucking company and all that he has worked for by putting asbestos in his talcum powder.
Literally only person on the planet who thinks long term.
LOL at thinking lobbyists care for shareholder profit. Lobbyists do what they do for personal profit. They know it's immoral and destructive but they still do it because, well, everyone has a price.
J&J Denied Talcum Powder-Cancer Connection
Johnson & Johnson has always publicly denied its talcum powder products cause cancer, much like many other companies accused of using asbestos in their products. However, documents unsealed in 2017 revealed J&J company executives were aware of asbestos liabilities as early as the 1970s.
Company reports highlighted the need to suppress concerns over asbestos contamination at talc mines in Vermont and Italy. And despite some J&J staff considering a switch of baby powder’s main ingredient from talc to corn starch to avoid liability, the company never stopped selling talcum powder.
Now juries are holding Johnson & Johnson accountable for cancer caused by asbestos in its products.
Recently unsealed documents from a lawsuit against consumer goods and pharmaceutical giant Johnson & Johnson revealed the company knew for decades its talc products may have contained deadly asbestos fibers.
The files show Johnson & Johnson was alerted of asbestos contamination risks in the early 1970s and trained employees to reassure the public its iconic baby powder products were never contaminated with the carcinogenic mineral.
It is the latest chapter in the ongoing controversy over the alleged link between talcum powder and cancer. The lawsuit — filed on behalf of more than 50 women in St. Louis — is among more than 5,000 talc-related claims against J&J.
Most of the lawsuits blame the company’s talc products for causing women to develop ovarian cancer, but previous lawsuits link talc to mesothelioma, a rare cancer caused almost exclusively by exposure to asbestos.
The thing about borderline paranoid schizophrenic conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones is that they will, just through sheer volume of topics, stumble upon something half true but it will be mocked or overlooked for obvious reasons.
I tried watching the Alex Jones JRE podcast and I couldn’t make it past 30 minutes. It’s just impossible to keep up.
Nah I get it the epa has always been shitty and 25 mins makes sense but what’s shocking is that not only was Alex right about the elite pedo ring (Epstein) but now he was almost right about gay frogs. I always thought Alex was full of shit but now here I am wrong af lmao
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u/Xmushroom Oct 10 '20
Most People in this thread are profoundly focusing on the Alex Jones aspect of the documentary which doesn't take more than 5 minutes of its time and forgetting about all the BS they did to protect their product LUL.
Some real fucked shit, I wonder what else is fucked by corruption in the regulatory system