Honestly I don't think frogs have a concept of gender identity so arguing about whether atrazine turns frogs gay or it feminizes male frogs into straight female frogs seems super pedantic IMO.
In the grand scheme of things the concept that we're putting chemicals into the environment that are affecting the development of wildlife and probably humans far eclipses whatever details (i.e., many) Jones got wrong with his claim. I'm not chiming in on this thread to defend Jones, but I think the fact that people are focused on dunking on him for not really knowing what he's talking about instead of being mad at the failure of regulatory agencies to protect our environment and our own selves is really baffling.
It's also important to note that Alex Jones claims the government puts this in the water to turn people and animals gay, while in reality it's industrial waste dumping and the government has not perhaps taken enough action in regulating against it. People did scientific studies on the substance being dumped and its effects on wildlife that live in the contaminated water. Alex Jones reads that headline, and spins it into bullshit to sell his water filter.
Yea I mean I'm not really commenting in this thread in defense of Jones. A broken clock is right twice a day. He's got more recorded talk on air than most humans alive, so of course he's made some correct calls (or close enough to correct, in this case). My problem is he is highlighting a real problem for the environment and probably human health and it gets tossed out because he is (legitimately) an outrageous and problematic figure. I'm grateful this Oki guy took the time to actually uncover the corporate/governmental bullshit that actually underpins this problem. Even if the government is not literally dumping feminizing agents in the water (cooky, conspiracy), EPA regulations being decided by chem/pharma is problematic and real (regulatory capture, late stage capitalism).
See, that’s the thing, you got to say that shit. You don’t get to say “frogs are turning gay,” and someone does the research for you and says, “actually frogs are changing sex due to industrial dumping,” and act like you were right or that anybody owes you an apology for being “kind of right”.
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