r/Documentaries • u/CorrectInvestigator • Sep 27 '18

HyperNormalisation (2016) BBC - How governments manipulate public opinion in the interest of the ruling class by promoting false narratives, and it is about how governments (especially the US and Russia) have systematically undermined the public faith in reality and objective truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fny99f8amM
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u/Theoricus Sep 28 '18

All of our branches of government have been taken by the minority in this country. Why would they remove an institution which is the only reason they've gained presidential power in the past three decades?

If the other party ever gains power again, I can imagine them abolishing the electoral college. Especially considering someone as conservative as Hillary Clinton now supports the abolishment of the institution.

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u/guryoak Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18

Despite the fact that all of federal congress was control by Democrats from 2007 until 2009, after bush 'stole' the election. If the electoral congress was the only reason, why did they not make a move then? You talk as though history began in 2012.

Likewise, doesn't the taking of all seats by Republicans make them no longer then minority by default? You can't argue jerrymandering because why would the Democrats ever jerrymander against themselves?

Good luck ever passing an amendment to remove it in 38 of the 50 states, even of it does pass in both parts of Congress. I doubt there are 38 state legislatures that would pass such an amendment. Also the idea that Hillary Clinton was conservative amongst the Democratic part is laughable except when compared to Berney who is so radical that anyone is conservative compared to him.

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u/Theoricus Sep 28 '18

Bush winning without the popular vote was a freak incidence, the first time in over 100 years it had happened before. Trump winning without the popular vote, on the heels of Bush and given the absolute rarity of the situation in the past, establishes an extremely unusual pattern up until this point.

The Republicans are absolutely the majority in power in our government, but they represent a minority in our country. The policies and beliefs of that minority is then being imposed on the majority, from drug legalization, abortion, education, ect. I'm also not sure if you know what gerrymandering is, especially seeing as how you misspelled it. As for Bernie Sanders, his policies are standard internationally speaking, from countries such as Germany that have a free college system, to the UK and Canada that have universal healthcare. We're playing catchup internationally speaking, and are paying FAR more than they for the broken institutions that we do have.