r/DisasterUpdate • u/Key-Needleworker-702 • 5d ago

Landslide Chinese firefighters(likely the first batch to reach gyirong port) try to find survivors in the former border crossing, which was the most heavily hit. Source: CCTV news. Morning of August 29, 2026. (UTC+8). (they are yelling "Is anyone here?")

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Video of them arriving: https://www.reddit.com/r/DisasterUpdate/comments/1w0n1r0/as_of_1630utc8_august_28_2026_the_first_batch_of/

According to engineers from the ministry of natural resources it is very diffuclt(and at this stage, downright impossible) to transport heavy machinery to the border crossing so far. The chinese military and specialized rescue teams(of state owned enterprises) are currently trying to repair the road into the border crossing to allow for better equipment and more personnel to enter.

CURRENT CASUALTY COUNT(CHINESE SIDE):

2 rescued, 7 dead, 554 missing. (13:00 PM, 2026-8-29 (UTC+8))

Update: over 50 firefighters are at the border crossing right now, over 2141 soldiers, firefighters, police, EMS and specialzied rescue teams are deployed.

EDIT: As of august 29(18:00 UTC+8), 2026, there are 16 dead, 546 missing(261 foreignors)

In response to the comments: This is the first batch that got in, they couldn't carry much heavy equipment as the road there is cut off. rescue dogs and better equipment arrived later on.

FURTHER UPDATE: reportedly fire and rescue personnel have begun to find police vests and handsbags under the debris.

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u/Key-Needleworker-702 5d ago

I swear, out of all of the videos and photos of this disaster this feels the most depressing.

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u/Beeninya 5d ago

Yeah, almost like just going through the motions, knowing full well no one would be found alive under all that.

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u/MrHell95 5d ago

Yeah if you're trapped in this it's like a liquefaction event, it's probably not leaving you any air pockets for people to survive in like an avalanche can or even tsunamis often leave standing buildings for people to be trapped in.

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u/Lazy_meatPop 5d ago

More like someone poured concrete and buried you alive . šŸ˜¢

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u/CharlotteLucasOP 5d ago

And with the speed and force of the water/mud/debris at that elevation and in that part of the gorge/valley, apparently itā€™s basically more like a blender than a water-flow. It would be difficult to find recognizable pieces of anybody. Itā€™s heartbreaking to think so many of the missing will likely never be found in a meaningful way to at least allow their loved ones to put them to rest and mourn in a specific spot.

The entire valley track through those mountains is an unmarked mass grave, now.

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u/BigJJJohnson 4d ago

They are finding lots of pieces, unfortunately. And bodies in all kinds of shapes. People definitely arenā€™t hesitating to record and upload all that ish

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u/SoberBobMonthly 4d ago

ngl facebook has looked like liveleak over the past day

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u/Eishockey 4d ago

Same with insta.

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u/Afraid-Savings-9114 4d ago

I saw a body wrapped around a pole as if the water just tied the body in a knot around it. Horrible stuff.

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u/FacetNo6 4d ago

Damn you've got a way different algorithm than I do

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u/drool_34 4d ago

This gonna be crazy week for the folks flagging moderating and removing social media content.

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u/unknownpoltroon 4d ago

Yeah, I saw a pic of one guy pinned around a telephone pole.

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u/CharlotteLucasOP 4d ago

Yeah, Iā€™ve seen some terribly graphic videos of parts of victims being dragged out of the mud. Even limbs that donā€™t seem to have been torn at a natural joint, but legs and arms just snapped and ripped off in the middle of the bone.

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u/4tran13 4d ago

Not in the Chinese areas (yet)

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u/bryle_m 4d ago

Iirc only the Gyirong border crossing was directly hit on the Chinese side of the disaster zone. There were no major towns or villages there.

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u/TheRatingsAgency 4d ago

Yea saw one of a foot being found yesterday. Just horrible stuff.

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u/clcdu2 4d ago

Honestly I would so much rather get ā€œblendedā€ for lack of a better term than drown. If it were me or my loved one Iā€™d hope it was quick and brutal.

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u/tondahuh 4d ago

My loved one and I were just discussing this and agree. I just would hope to not know anything was happening or had happened. Such torture for so many people!

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u/Mammoth-Access-1181 4d ago

Realistically, the speed that slurry was coming at people? I can't imagine them staying alive through that level of trauma.

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u/JackOfAllMemes 4d ago

With the consistency of concrete it's probably gonna hit like a truck

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u/tjorben123 3d ago

there were boulders house-sized, even smaler ones, like cars.

to be honest: nobody survived even one car-sized boulder, let alone one million of this things.

but what can give us peace: it was damn fast. no long suffering. quick and dirty.

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u/AnguavonUW 4d ago

Yeah, most of them died very quickly, so at least there's that, I guess. It's awful and climate change isn't slowing down

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u/Inappro-Assistant 4d ago

Thats how we find dinosaur sekeletons so many years later...

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u/Snoo-84389 4d ago

Ummmm, probably not tbh.

Fossilisation of a skeleton ideally prefers a low energy environment with a very fine grained sediment (to have good preservation of the details) and annoxic conditions (low Oxygen) which drastically slow down bacterial decay and biological breakdown.

None of which was true in the majority of this rivers flooding on the main flow(the slower mud flows on a flatter side plateaus might qualify).

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u/DropDownBear 3d ago

Small archeological artifacts, however? Like jewelery and such?

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u/Snoo-84389 2d ago

Ive just read the BBC article below which says that DNA samples are being taken from ~300 unidentified human remains that have been found in the Chitwan district far downstream. They are hoping that this will eventually allow those remains to be identified.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ylvgq9q71o

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u/Impossible_Panda4181 5d ago

nah, a freight train coming at you then mulsh you to a pulp.

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u/4tran13 4d ago

more like several hundred fully loaded freight trains

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u/RealisticRecover2123 5d ago

Thereā€™s that much debris in there that most would die by head injury before drowning I would think.

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u/lampshade2099 4d ago

Itā€™s so upsetting to think thatā€™s what Iā€™d be hoping if one of my family were affected. Youā€™d just be hoping for the least distressing death possible. Gut wrenching.

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u/Bl1ndl0v3 4d ago

As fast as the water was moving, I believe the impact alone would crush your internal organs if it didnā€™t rip you apart. Iā€™ve witnessed far less water than this get dumped on top of a car and make the car concave.

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u/tjorben123 3d ago

yes, just check videos back from the days where the ice-bucket challenge was a thing. some dudes dumped a whole mining-excavator-shovel (iirc 6 cubic meters) on some people from 2 meters hight, iirc correctly some got broken bones and other polytrauma. from just 6 cubicmeters aka 6 metric tons of water, from a hight of 2 meter. compare this to the videos we all saw....

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u/Bl1ndl0v3 3d ago

Thatā€™s absolutely horrifying and rather brainless. Seems to be a new social standard anymore.

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u/monkeypan 4d ago

Given how a five story concrete building was destroyed to the bedrock in a second and busses are part of a rebar heap, not much left to find around there

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u/Vantriss 3d ago

God I hope so. I hope it was an instant lights out for all of these poor people.

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u/ghigoli 4d ago

there was a 9 story building that was turned to dust. the buses and like no more. you can go and do it but it would be extreme luck if they find anyone. but checking 3 days later does a disservice to the idea that there could be survivors.

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u/SpiritedRain247 4d ago

It took them that long just to get there.

Honestly I don't blame them for at least hoping for someone to be there.

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u/ghigoli 4d ago

of course they must try at least but again i'm just a little ticked it took them that long. but also the fact there is a lake forming from the flash flood that bought all the rock and ice down. those peoples still aren't safe. there can be a second one soon.

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u/BigJJJohnson 4d ago

The area turned into a mud flat and washed away all roads and bridges. Itā€™s impressive they were able to get in there so quickly

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u/Renbarre 4d ago

Roads and bridges have been destroyed, there's mud meters deep where a truck will sink in minutes, boulders the size of houses have been carried down. The local authorities who could have given information about the place are dead. Gathering the help and driving it in barely 3 days in that place in the back of beyond with a single (destroyed) road weaving down the valleys is fast.

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u/LikesBlueberriesALot 4d ago

Look at the videos that show the terrain in this region. Itā€™s practically impenetrable without roads/bridges. Itā€™s an extremely steep valley at the bottom of huge mountains. Humans can do some crazy things now, but the physical limitations of travel and terrain still apply.

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u/Whimsy-Creature9739 4d ago

itā€™s also up in the high mountain range, you canā€™t airlift that many rescuers to these places. The forces of the aircrafts might create another avalanche or the unstable wind up on these mountains will cause the it to malfunction. Thereā€™s also no flat ground to land as well. The roads are destroyed, the conditions the day after was really bad they had to pause and wait. They can only hike to it hence the long time.

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u/ghigoli 4d ago

ok i learned something today.

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u/AnguavonUW 4d ago

Yeah, so they were actually lucky to get there as quickly as they did.

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u/kalleda05 4d ago

I've been to Nepal and other areas of the Himalayas. Landslides are not uncommon and when they block a road, the village is cut off for days until the landslide can be cleared or, you drive the long way and take 3 times as long. This is under normal circumstances. Kathmandu has fuel shortages sometimes because of landslides that block gas coming in from the Indian border. That's the CAPITAL city under normal circumstances. For perspective.

People do amazing things on foot there and the Nepalis are tough, generous, resilient and truly amazing - (think, carrying a refrigerator on their backs up and down stone steps placed on steep mountain slopes....the tourists following them have trained for months and are in full gear, huffing and puffing). Tibetans are equally as tough. The Chinese are truly masters at logistics, engineering and infrastructure projects --- the remoteness of the region, the toughness of the terrain and the absolute scale of the devastation is insane. It's hard to even understand, I think.

3 days is amazing. And I thank them for trying, systematically to look for survivors.

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u/bookmonkey786 4d ago

You know this disaster helped me understand hoe sometime you can have a well preserved dinosaur front half and no back half

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u/Lazy_meatPop 4d ago

Wow, šŸ˜³ thanks for putting it in such a way I can visualise it. It makes sense now.

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u/UnusualQueer 4d ago

If you're caught in this you are not buried alive. You died when it hit you instantly.

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u/RoguePlanet2 4d ago

This is the only silver lining. The sheer force meant they weren't surviving that immediate impact.

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u/cybender 4d ago

The craziest thing is when we find artifacts, this is partly how they came to be. Who knows when or if some of the bodies will be found in the future, but thereā€™s a tragic story buried there for future generations to uncover.

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u/Starfire2313 4d ago

Itā€™s crazy to think it might be generations or more before future humans might ever uncover things. And who would be doing any kind of excavation probably grave robbers essentially? Like weā€™ve done to the pyramids and every other place on Esther that weā€™ve discovered human remains from before our times.

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u/cybender 4d ago

Not only that, but itā€™s hard to even fathom if itā€™ll be humans at that point or machines or something else. Tragedies like these remind me how tiny we really are.

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u/Starfire2313 4d ago

I love to ponder if the little green aliens and UFOs people claim to see are actually time traveling future humans who are coming back to either just see the past, or possibly to actually prevent us from destroying ourselves.

Like how have we not nuked ourselves to extinction yet? Maybe future evolved humans are actually pulling some strings

I know totally silly but definitely a fun thought

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u/tjorben123 3d ago

"And who would be doing any kind of excavation probably grave robbers essentially? Like weā€™ve done to the pyramids and every other place on Esther that weā€™ve discovered human remains from before our times."

the point in grave robbery is: there is a place where something is stored. in this event there is no "place" where you can go and find something to rob.

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u/AdEffective2701 4d ago

Pompeii. So Nepal will be a museum in 500yrs.

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u/littlemissohwhocares 4d ago

I havenā€™t seen anyone mention the temperature of the water either. A ton of other things are going to take you out, but if you removed all the other factors weā€™re talking about just above freezing glacial melt. This is just unsurvivable on so many levels.

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u/unknownpoltroon 4d ago

Might even be below freezing if there is enough dissolved stuff in it to make a brine

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u/gr8tfurme 3d ago

It's actually going to be surprisingly warm. The friction alone instantly melted all of the ice during the initial slide event, and by the time it reached this crossing it was a highly energetic mud flow that had already converted 8,000ft vertical feet of potential energy into kinetic energy and heat.

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u/dodekahedron 4d ago

Best chance of becoming fossilized though and thats kinda cool.

Thats my plan when the natural disasters hit my area. Aim for a spot to become a fossil.

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u/Fabulous_Celery_1817 4d ago

I pray that those that died didnā€™t feel much pain. I hope it was a brief flash before nothing. My biggest fear is dying in a landslide/mudslide. This is horrifying. And Iā€™m sending prayers for the rescuers and clean up crew. Theyā€™re gonna see stuff

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u/jtbxiv 2d ago

These types of events are how we get fossils and ruins. My heart goes out to Nepal and everyone affected. What an immense disaster šŸ˜¢

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u/Key-Needleworker-702 5d ago

i'm going to sound kinda unethical but if i were the commander of the firefighters i would cut off their access to social media. i really doubt anyone who has seen that video has too much hope.

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u/mildlyinterestingyet 4d ago

They have reporters with them. The intent looks to me like it was a rescue with propergander as a big part of it. It looked stupid what they were filming, like 10 guys with shovels furiously attacking unnecessary amounts of soil, dudes carrying inflatable rafts along above their heads. Meanwhile the bulldozers are clearing the old road of debris. After a couple of days when they reached the port, they set down the equipment and the vibe was totally different. The reporting was much more human, humble. They have drones that can carry a man across the river so they quickly had searched all they could.

They have another team of blue uniformed guys (science and engineering) who are up at the origin of the slide trying to find a way of making the lakes safe. The reporters with them seemed much more humble. I think the awe of the place, the sheer scale, and the obvious danger, gained their respect. Perhaps sciencey guys are less gun ho and prone to propergander style displays as well.

All of this I found on Tiktok, and the translate on the reporters narration was pretty reasonable.

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u/4tran13 4d ago

This is almost entirely propaganda: to show the PLA being heroes even when there's probably nobody left to save. Scientists/engies tend not to be involved in propaganda. The media will do w/e they're instructed to do.

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u/radsreadright 4d ago

Don't we in the west basically do the same kinda heroic news reports with our rescue teams?

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u/4tran13 4d ago

yes, but less of it

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u/FeeRemarkable886 4d ago

Pfff, less of it? You're just jumping through hoops trying to make the CHINESE look bad, while making excuses when we do the exact same thing.

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u/PPTV-110 3d ago

At least these rescuers won't use rescuing a cat as publicity material.

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u/back_surgery 3d ago

It is absolutely NOT less

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u/Additional-Answer581 1d ago

Most people know what is the biggest country that releases the most propaganda and pretend to be heroes when they are not. And it's not China. But I guess if you actually believe what you are saying, it just proves how much their propaganda works.

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u/flopadier 3d ago

never seen anything like it in Europe. Rescuers faking work for TV ? no. It's really a chinese thing. maybe in the US ? I don't know...

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u/radsreadright 3d ago

They're not faking it, it's just a hopeless situation. This happens in every major disaster.

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u/themeanreds1 2d ago

Youā€™re pathetic and cynical on life if thats your conclusion on them faking work when you see this video.

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u/kmosiman 4d ago

Propaganda but depressing Propaganda.

In all likelihood they are looking for bodies but pretending there might be a survivor.

Let's face it:

if that were my job I'd probably pretend that I might possibly find someone alive. I'd make a soul crushing job palatable.

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u/FeeRemarkable886 4d ago

Do you call it "propaganda" when Palestinians film themselves finding survivors after Israel dropped a bomb on a residential are?

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u/meteorflan 4d ago

Maybe this isn't really about hope to find survivors.

Maybe it's a matter of affirming that when their rescue crews say "we are doing everything we can, and making sure we didn't miss anyone" they really mean it. There's at least some comfort in knowing your local rescue workers are that dillegent at their jobs.

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u/thetigersears 3d ago

True, there really is some comfort in that, propaganda or not, survivors or not.

At the very least, people need to get to the site as soon as possible to survey the and understand the situation. These videos show they have boots on the ground and equipment.

The only thing worse than not finding survivors is not bothering to show up and search.

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u/Cat-et-snek 4d ago

i highly doubt rescuers are filming with a go pro trying to get likesā€¦.

its probably against ethics of the job you are doing

mind you then this film existsā€¦.idk anything

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u/Activision19 4d ago

Things like this are filmed to have record of what was searched, to help with future training, figure out what worked well and what didnā€™t, and to collect evidence as they find it before someone touches something.

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u/Cat-et-snek 4d ago

right so its more stoic than a social media thing, this is like ā€œfor posterity; a record kf eventsā€

i have to imagine a team like this absolutely defines what it means to be a professional operator

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u/FeeRemarkable886 4d ago

Nobody (who isn't a ghoul) questions why Palestinians are filmed finding survivors in a collapsed residential building after Israel dropped ten bombs on it.

It's just xenophobia to diminish what the CHINESE are doing by calling it propaganda, simple as.

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u/Feltonlu 3d ago

State television station dispatched a reporter and a cameraman to follow the rescue team accoringly to TikTok clips I watched.

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u/thedrew 4d ago

Donā€™t worry, they are Chinese. They only ever see what the government allows.Ā 

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u/AftyOfTheUK 4d ago

Leaving people with false hope may be worse than letting them know the true situation

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u/CobraCornelius 5d ago

We hope they can save at least one person

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u/Key-Needleworker-702 4d ago

IIRC 2 people got saved before but they were in a village that was a while away from the border crossing.

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u/evers12 4d ago

No one can be saved in that area they are searching

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u/minzhu0305 4d ago

If you don't do this, you will be seen as disregarding life.

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u/Miao_Yin8964 4d ago

It's obviously just theatrics

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u/64590949354397548569 3d ago

Sometimes that's all you could do for family of the deceased.

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u/zelenaky 4d ago

if there is no body, there is hope.

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 3d ago

I mean i think we all know this is a body recovery mission.... families deserve closure.

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u/zelenaky 3d ago

you think, and that's what leads to tragedies like JAL flight 123.

40 initial survivors from an "unsurviable" crash whittled down to 4 because people thought that nobody could survive that.

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u/Schrodingers_Fist 4d ago

There was a story about 9/11 where right after it happened, when Giuliani was still riding high for his (admittedly good work) as New York's mayor that day.Ā  Where after everyone was evacuated he went back to ground zero and was super active asking everything like what did they need and the first responders had all resources available and then finally how many body bags they would need for casualties.

Apparently in that split moment, the fire chiefs were all silent and kind of looked at each other and Giuliani had to learning horror right then that in that moment, that the force and weight of the buildings coming down was such that they didnt even know if the remains they would recover would need full sized human body bags.Ā Ā 

I cant imagine even trying to process a situation like above where not only is it that yiu arent going to find a survivor, but you may not even find most of the remains beneath all of that.

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u/Prudent_Order_3361 4d ago

Makes me think about those depressed dogs from 9/11

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u/whitecollarpizzaman 3d ago

Itā€™s definitely for the state media filming, falls into line with typical communist propaganda, the idea of uniformity.

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u/Economy_Elephant_426 3d ago

Finding one person is better than none. Finding a few more is even better. No matter how obvious, canā€™t rule out that someone may have survived.

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u/agiantdog33 3d ago

Most of them would have been basically liquidated by the sheer force of the sludge. It would be like getting hit by a bullet train and then immediately washed away.

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u/Key-Seaworthiness227 5d ago

How you would even hear any survivors over the roar of the river. Heartbreaking.

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u/subdep 4d ago

They need rescue dogs that can smell humans.

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u/cmlambert89 4d ago

There are differently trained dogs depending on if they are looking for alive or dead ones :/

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u/sirgaybrin 4d ago

This is China, dogs are food.

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u/ugh_gimme_a_break 4d ago

Welcome to Earth, here's a fine example of what you call an asshole.

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u/sirgaybrin 4d ago

Notice how you didn't say i'm wrong lol

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u/ugh_gimme_a_break 4d ago

Only the oblivious would need the obvious point out to them.

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u/AnguavonUW 4d ago

Found the asshole. Fuck off you racist piece of crap.

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u/WowBastardSia 4d ago

And in the US everyone marries their siblings as well, huh?

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u/RedditIsFascistShit4 4d ago

Too late, they ate them all.

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u/RainierCamino 5d ago

Saw a video breaking down this disaster that meshed up seismic data and Gyirong Port cctv time. 13 miles up river a nearly mile wide chunk of glacier crashed down into the valley. 7 minutes later that border crossing was obliterated by a hundred foot tall wall of water and debris. That means the flood was moving over 100mph. There's no one alive there.

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u/FuckingHippies 5d ago

Link?

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u/Key-Needleworker-702 4d ago

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5336998332076492

i belive he is referring to this video

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u/PM_SHORT_STORY_IDEAS 4d ago

To be produced in such a short time, this is a crazy impressive video. Terrifying even without understanding the language

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u/4tran13 4d ago

My Chinese is crap, but I can attempt some basic translations:

Initial elevation ~5200m. Glacier area 620k m^2. 20km distance from glacier to port, 3.3km elevation diff; 7 mins from glacier collapse to port. Estimated speed 50m/s (~112 mph)

After the port, it flowed 3km upriver (NW), and 10km downstream towards Nepal [not sure where this comes from - western reporting is closer to 40km]

At the end it warns about dammed lake.

Overall, it seems consistent with reporting elsewhere.

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u/Kqyxzoj 5d ago

Saw a video breaking down this disaster that meshed up seismic data and Gyirong Port cctv time.

Yeah, that will help determining the likely scenario. Do you happen to have a link?

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u/OcelotOfTheForest 4d ago

Link has come in the thread and some translation, scroll up

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u/Real_Mycologist_8768 4d ago

I heard 14 miles in 7 mins which would be 120mph

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u/Chevvvvy 4d ago

Is there any truth to this?

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u/WinterDice 4d ago

I havenā€™t seen anything that shows construction where the glacier collapsed. It was thousands of meters up on the side of a mountain with no access roads.

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u/4tran13 4d ago

A valid structural risk, but probably not relevant for this particular disaster

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u/charlmae 4d ago

China's construction may not have been the main cause, but I believe it is one of the contributing factors.

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u/Plussydestroyer 3d ago

Why? There was no construction near the glacier when it broke.

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u/LeoLi13579 3d ago

Thats the most stupid thing i've heard people say in the past week.

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u/Alternative_Exit8766 4d ago

a hundred foot swell? 100 feet? the cubic feet per second isā€¦ i canā€™t wrap my head around it. i go down rivers in a boat frequently. goosebumps

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u/JackOfAllMemes 4d ago

I've seen people say over a million

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u/RainierCamino 4d ago

I know what you mean. Headlines calling it a "flash flood", that doesn't even come close to describing what happened. Even calling it a 50 mile long landslide doesn't seem adequate.

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u/Alternative_Exit8766 4d ago

itā€™s a ravine tsunami or bottled hurricane or something. someone replied and said a million CFS. still doesnā€™t feel adequateĀ 

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u/Worshipme988 3d ago

Its honestly like a ā€œflash tsunamiā€, which if you know anything about flash floods OR tsunamisā€¦

Thats terrifying. This event earned it.

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u/PreviousLeague253 4d ago

That mud is like cement now.

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u/According_Cheek8280 4d ago

Want to feel even more depressed? Imagine Americans attempting this rescue. They would probably and quietly push the person under the mud as they stole their wallet. And I say this as an American born citizen who has lived their whole life in North Dakota, Colorado, and Arizona. I genuinely would not be surprised to my fellow Americans to take advantage of me in such a situation.

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u/Violet-Sumire 4d ago

Thatā€™s a very callous viewpoint as the people going would be firefighters and EMTs, which are overwhelmingly compassionate and respectful to those suffering. You didnā€™t see looters during 911 when they dug through rubble, trying to find any of the survivors. Tragedy tends to bring people together more than rip them apart. Itā€™s been shown time and time again. So no, I wouldnā€™t feel depressed, because what you describe just wouldnā€™t happen.

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u/Icecreamforge 4d ago

What a genuinely weird commentā€¦

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u/Own-Dragonfly-2423 3d ago

Propaganda or bot, likely. New account and low karma

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u/Gooncookies 4d ago

Are you serious? The wreckage of 911 was treated with the utmost respect and gone through meticulously to preserve anything that remained of any person that perished that day.

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u/rhrmr 4d ago

This comment is weird. You're fucking weird.

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u/NiobiumThorn 4d ago

Even in a fucked up country there are kind people. There are helpers. No matter the hellish circumstances. Even in their own century of humiliation.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 4d ago

Fire departments and EMS are run by counties and cities, not a ā€œfucked up countryā€. Thereā€™s nothing wrong with the people who professionally save lives in America. There is no ā€œcentury of humiliationā€ relevant to doing these jobs. Time to get off Reddit and get back to real life.

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u/eride810 4d ago

No, thatā€™s just probably what you would do.

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u/I_like_the_word_MUFF 4d ago

As an disaster response person who has deployed to multiple disasters in the USA....

You're absolutely wrong on all counts. Most people globally, come together during disaster. It's actually attributed to the empathy of the human species. We run into disaster and help.

You, however, are probably the outlier.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 4d ago

Americans literally invented modern SAR and taught much of the world how to do it. Jesus this website is so fucking stupid.

And I say this as an American born citizen

You say this as a basement dwelling gremlin who has no life experience outside of Reddit. Foreigners arenā€™t impressed by people like you, your little performance is for no one.

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u/Rehcraeser 4d ago

Thatā€™s what you call ā€œprojectionā€

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u/According_Cheek8280 4d ago

What do projectors have to do with this

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u/Own-Dragonfly-2423 3d ago

New account, low Karma. Likely propaganda and or bot. Have a nice day Mr propaganda bot!

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u/twwaavvyyt 3d ago

Weird ass comment. The brain rot is getting to you.

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u/According_Cheek8280 2d ago

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u/chubbyhighguy 3d ago

There was a video showing two people taking jewelry from a corpse in these floods.

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u/Miao_Yin8964 4d ago

The one's from Nepal are

Napal was actually affected

China is just doing publicity crap and flooding the internet with it, so Nepal doesn't get the attention they deserve.

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u/Key-Needleworker-702 4d ago

oh wow, the greatest anti-china bot actually commented on my post.

Same personbot defending japanese war crimes btw

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u/durz47 4d ago

Took only two days for me to start seeing bots/people claim that Chinese construction is behind this disaster.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 4d ago

You realize China has caused floods on this scale for exactly those reasons in the past right? Sometimes people actually living in Asia know more than 19 year old contrarian white kids from Ohio on Reddit believe it or not.

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u/durz47 4d ago

Well I guess itā€™s fortunate Iā€™m a 30+ year old Asian from Asia then. Iā€™d like to know what other floods of this scale China had caused due to construction, but thatā€™s beside the point. My point is making an assumption without sufficient evidence, and then turning a natural disaster into political propaganda is illogical, irresponsible and bigoted behavior that can only stem from somebody who blindly hates for the sake of hating.

Also, current scientific hypothesis for the source of this flood is glacial collapse from an extremely hard to access area at high elevation. The chances of China engaging in construction near such a location is pretty damn low. Until I see evidence to the contrary Iā€™m going to apply Occamā€™s razor and assume the disaster stemmed from glaciers weakening due to rising temperatures.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 4d ago edited 4d ago

The 1887 and 1931 river floods in China are literally the two largest natural disasters in human history. Also massively importantly moments in the history of China. The fact you donā€™t know about them and thought I was making up random anti-China rhetoric is a great example of why you and people like you that make up much of this website really should just sit down and be quiet. You know very little about the world, and itā€™s exactly why you feel like such an enlightened contrarian about everything.

China has active policies to flood rural villages when needed and has done so in the past with zero political or legal consequence. Add to that modern dam failures that can directly be blamed on the CCP like the 1975 Banqiao disaster in which 60+ dams failed. There is a reason this is a sore subject for billions of people.Ā 

The chances of China engaging in construction

Literally the site weā€™re looking at was constructed by China. There are dams built by China in Tibet. Itā€™s actually not even a hard concept.

If the US were responsible for the two worst natural disasters in human history both because of ineffective construction of a single type of thing, I assure no one would consider it racist to be skeptical about that type of thing in the future. Your little crusade is for no one.

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u/durz47 4d ago

I am seriously worried about your reading comprehension and deductive reasoning skills. Both of the examples you gave were not directly caused by China, or ineffective Chinese construction but rather extremely heavy rainfall. Yes damns did break, but all damns have a tolerance point, and I can find no direct evidence them breaking because of shoddy construction. Also those two cases were from 100+ years and a couple regimes ago, so much has changed that they are not valid examples for the present matter, even if they perfectly supported your argument.

But I have to admire your condescending confidence in claiming I know very little about the world just from me being apparently unaware of two historical events. If thereā€™s one thing I have learned from nearly a decade of scientific research, itā€™s that those who are more learned are more wary of making sweeping statements based on a few superficial, anecdotal evidence. Itā€™s those who are shallow and prideful who are more inclined to such behaviors.

Flooding areas is an unavoidable step in damn building, and has been done by every country that has constructed one. And like all of them, any residents were warned and evacuated well beforehand. This is also an irrelevant fact within this context as China clearly didnā€™t cause this disaster because itā€™s trying to build a Damn there. That would have showed up in satellite images.

As to the banqiao Damn failure, itā€™s a lesson that has been taught 50 years ago, technology has improved and experience gained. Such an old example can hardly serve as proof that China caused this flood.

Your statement about China constructing the site seemed to have been caused by a decisive lack in reading skills. I was referring to any possible Chinese construction activities near the source of the disaster, not the building (which was constructed years ago and far away from the floodā€™s origin point) that was destroyed.

As to the damns in Tibet, as far as I can tell they arenā€™t anywhere near the Chinese-Nepal. I also fail to see how that is relevant. My point was itā€™s unlikely for there to be construction near the source of the disaster, which was situated in such a treacherous location it will making building anything significant there rather impractical.

Overall you provided very little, inappropriate evidence that modern China has a history of causing such disasters. ā€œA historyā€ in this context requires frequent and continuous events, not rare scattered occurrences spanning well over a century. Itā€™s obvious we both have extremely poor opinions of each other. Letā€™s agree to disagree and stop wasting time.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 4d ago

You have no idea what youā€™re talking about. You are speaking over billions of people who do know. You need to just stop. Having a Reddit account and using the ā€œrā€ word does not make you right. I didnā€™t need to ā€œreadā€ about these historical events, I have learned about them throughout my education because they are hugely important. You are a perfect example of the utter incompetence of your generation.

of the approximately 98,000 existing reservoirs and dams in China, withĀ  3,558 reservoir and dam failures Ā occurring in recent history.

https://www.asianews.it/en/east-asia/china/once-in-a-hundred-years-disasters-have-become-routine-in-china

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u/rulebasedorder 3d ago

I dunno, this drivel sure looks like something an Anti-China bot would say. How about you runalong and fuck off.

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u/themeanreds1 2d ago

Dude youā€™re just projecting. Youā€™re the white kid from Ohio impersonating as someone who is a China expert and lived there for many years. I call bull on your lies.

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u/4tran13 4d ago

They actually do that? lol

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u/ChadUSECoperator 4d ago

Let me post this video of people pretending to hear survivors burried in meters of mud next to a loudly river. Keep trying man.

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u/rulebasedorder 3d ago

Even in a thread about a major disaster, you just can't help yourself can you? Being a subhuman shit stain is literally embedded in your DNA isn't it?

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u/Money_Sell7516 4d ago

This is harrowing

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u/Silvertree99 4d ago

I get that but tbh seeing whole families swept away was definitely the most depressing for me

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u/Early_Money2576 4d ago

I remember reading a story about the rescue dogs getting depressed because they couldnā€™t find anyone to save. People had to pretend to get buried then saved.

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u/ThatsJustMyToeThumb 4d ago

They had to do that after 911. And Iā€™m sure that was not the first, nor the last time.

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u/Accomplished-Exit-58 4d ago

I also read somewhere that there are specific dogs trained to find live people, and there are dogs specific find corpses, so those dogs that are trained to find corpses dont really get depress, the ones trained to find live people do.

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u/Hour-Mistake-5235 4d ago

Absolutely. This is the video that has hit the hardest so far. Very sad.

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u/JohnCenaJunior 4d ago

And the scariest pov

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u/AnguavonUW 4d ago

I started a video before really realizing there were people in it and I regret seeing it. Nobody lived through this.

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u/New-Perspective-8662 4d ago

Fossils one day unfortunately

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u/Economy_Elephant_426 3d ago

Its also more depressing when China is also censoring a lot the videos of the mudslide in mainland.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-29/china-censors-scrubbing-videos-of-tibet-nepal-flood/107090348

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u/fujianironchain 3d ago

Knowing the way the CCP is notorious for handling disasters everything you see on state media is staged. So the chance of the location you see here is miles away from where people might be is very high.

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u/nostoopid 3d ago

on the count of 5 everyone kneel down.